Jason Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/25/facebook-free-lunch-banned-silicon-valley-restaurants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 How are they going to keep their employees at the office for 16 hours a day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Is that even legal? I've worked at plenty of places that provide free lunch. It's a perk of working at a particular company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Good. Socialism is a cancer on our society and we need to keep these companies sending their employees to capitalists on their lunch hour if we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Good. Socialism is a cancer on our society and we need to keep these companies sending their employees to capitalists on their lunch hour if we can. Let's not pretend like these Facebook employees aren't the 1% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Let's not pretend like these Facebook employees aren't the 1% Cost of living in SV is high. They're probably the 50% or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Let's not pretend like these Facebook employees aren't the 1% A six-figure salary is considered 'low income' in San Francisco, and the threshold is rising San Francisco: Where a six-figure salary is 'low income' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Hope they don't step in any human shit or drug needles or trip over any bums on their way to getting lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I don’t have any problem with tying tax incentives to other things like no free lunch of campus but free lunch off campus. Just banning free lunches on campus seems like corporate welfare for all the other businesses around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I don’t have any problem with tying tax incentives to other things like no free lunch of campus but free lunch off campus. Just banning free lunches on campus seems like corporate welfare for all the other businesses around. I'm sure you'll be shocked to learn that Mountain View has also gone after food trucks in the past: https://mv-voice.com/news/2013/01/24/allow-food-trucks-downtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Jason said: I'm sure you'll be shocked to learn that Mountain View has also gone after food trucks in the past: https://mv-voice.com/news/2013/01/24/allow-food-trucks-downtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 38 minutes ago, Jason said: A six-figure salary is considered 'low income' in San Francisco, and the threshold is rising San Francisco: Where a six-figure salary is 'low income' These lunches are aimed primarily at software engineers and similar white collar roles, who have new college graduates start over $100k/year at average companies with kids from average CS programs. Provided lunches aren't for the janitors or other blue collar types, who really do struggle in the Bay area. These people are on track to make a stupid amount of money, and can set themselves up to move across country in a similar role for at something like 80% pay for a 50% COL adjustment. I'm not going to mourn the loss of this untaxed perk for those who literally are in the best career track possible today when there are real issues with poverty and the cost of living in the Bay area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 For the last time, it doesn’t matter if your top 1% salary affords you a hovel, you’re still in the top 1%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 They can't afford it anyway: Facebook stock drops 20% in after-market trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Quote Borden is one of the supporters of a San Francisco city proposal, announced on Tuesday,that would ban on-site workplace cafeterias If approved, the measure would alter city planning laws to ban workplace cafeterias in any new developments, but would not be retroactive. You going to arrest people for bringing a bag lunch with them to work, too? I get the large scale communal concerns over this where the company is a vital organ of the community, but it strikes me as the kind of thing that should have been handled when they were settling on things like tax breaks for moving in and such. And now maybe with property or business taxes. Fucking with people's lunch hour is like a twofer when it comes to working class people who might not be hardcore Dem or Rep who are susceptible to arguments about frivolous government regulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Chairslinger said: Fucking with people's lunch hour is like a twofer when it comes to working class people who might not be hardcore Dem or Rep who are susceptible to arguments about frivolous government regulation. As @b_m_b_m_b_m noted, this isn’t really about working class people...or even the “kinda working class because they only make 6 figs in the Bay Area” types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Zuck lost $20B today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, sblfilms said: As @b_m_b_m_b_m noted, this isn’t really about working class people...or even the “kinda working class because they only make 6 figs in the Bay Area” types. I was referring to how this plays in the wider political conversation. We talk a lot about Trump parodying himself, but this is the type of thing conservatives dream up to turn people against government regulation. 3 minutes ago, Amazatron said: Zuck lost $20B today... I am sure that Zuckerberg would say that, like the Holocaust, that number is greatly inflated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, sblfilms said: As @b_m_b_m_b_m noted, this isn’t really about working class people...or even the “kinda working class because they only make 6 figs in the Bay Area” types. A comment from the /r/bayarea discussion on this: Quote You know all those underpaid contractors at Facebook that make like 20$/hr? They get free food too, it helps (somewhat) with the ridiculous cost of living here. There are also the people who make the food and do the other cafeteria work who'd lose their jobs over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkness35 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Really sounds like these restaurants serve piss poor quality food (or attitudes) and feel entitled and expect diners to come into their shitty establishments. Makes you think why their business suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, Jason said: A comment from the /r/bayarea discussion on this: There are also the people who make the food and do the other cafeteria work who'd lose their jobs over this. I’m sure both of those things are true while not representing the majority of folks for whom the free lunch is designed to attract at these firms. But it’s still worth considering those others who will be truly negatively affected by the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I will admit I prefer a company with a cafeteria. I really tried to get on at a finance company in Cincinnati that had free lunch and when I worked as a contracter for Luxottica at their North American retail headquarters I never once went out for lunch because their cafeteria was really good. I don't have a problem with company cafeterias, they've existed about as long as offices have and some of them have been free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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