AbsolutSurgen Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Xbox Scarlett APU Die Shot Analysis: Die Size Estimated Quote Editor's Warning: Die size estimations are always to be taken with a grain of salt. The slightest distortion/error in perspective correction can result in exponentially large differences. Use of certain lenses can also throw these calculations widely off. These are provided only for fun and to give our readers a "guesstimate" of the actual die size. Quote Scorpio had 2560 SPs with 2 CUs disabled and while the Xbox Scarlett APU is clearly bigger, it is not possible to speculate based just on the die size because of the different process node involved (7nm vs 16nm) but we can safely say that you are looking at at least 50% more power in the same die space. Since the Scorpio APU can output roughly 6 TFLOPs of power, we can guesstimate a range of around 9 TFLOPs for the Scarlett APU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Were are my other 3 TFs? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cusideabelincoln Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Were are my other 3 TFs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 Xbox Series X Rear Ports Shown Off During AMD CES 2020 Press Conference Quote So, what kind of ports can we expect from Microsoft’s powerful new console? Well, it looks like we’ve got and ethernet hookup, a two-pin power connector (indicating an internal power supply rather than an old-school power brick), two USB-C ports, and two HDMI ports. There is also an additional USB port on the front of the machine, probably for controller charging. So, a fairly similar array of ports to the Xbox One, but still pretty generous compared to Sony and Nintendo consoles typically offer. The two HDMI ports (one in, one out, most likely) seems to indicate you’ll once again be able to route other consoles or your cable box through the system. While not everyone used that feature, it’s nice to see it’s (likely) coming back. And what kind of peripherals might end up plugged into those USB-C ports? I suppose we’ll have to wait and see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 Not mentioned. I think this confirms the rumour that Xbox SeX will not require a grounded three-prong plug! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 "The Xbox Series X imagery used during the AMD CES press conference was not sourced from Microsoft and does not accurately represent the design or features of the upcoming console. They were taken from TurboSquid.com." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Taken from a 3rd party, not officially official by MS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 Maybe 12TF isn't as firm as some believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I'm so hoping the two hdmi's is a dual output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I can’t imagine Microsoft would say 12TFs if it wasn’t 12TFs. Maybe back when Don was in charge, but Phil wouldn’t make a silly mistake. #IBelievein12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, XxEvil AshxX said: I'm so hoping the two hdmi's is a dual output. This was confirmed to be a mistake by AMD. For some reason, they didn't use imagery provided by MS. 9 minutes ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: I can’t imagine Microsoft would say 12TFs if it wasn’t 12TFs. Maybe back when Don was in charge, but Phil wouldn’t make a silly mistake. #IBelievein12 I haven't seen any quotes from Phil referring to 12TF -- where have you seen this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: This was confirmed to be a mistake by AMD. For some reason, they didn't use imagery provided by MS. I haven't seen any quotes from Phil referring to 12TF -- where have you seen this? Quick google search and you are right. Man I thought this was confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 He's only said 'do the math' and gave multipliers if I'm not mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: He's only said 'do the math' and gave multipliers if I'm not mistaken. So when we do the math, we’re over eight times the GPU power of the Xbox One, and two times what an Xbox One X is.” Xbox One X is targeting around 12 teraflops (TF) of computing power, compared to the Xbox One X’s 6TF, and the Xbox One S’s 1.4TF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 If it's not 12TF, we'll look back at the word "power" as PR-speak. Wouldn't be the first time. I remember when Sony tried to claim how capable their systems were based on a number of unshaded/unlit polygons rendered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Expectations are for 12TF. Any less, there will be disappointment. Microsoft has hitched its horse to the Power bandwagon so it will be interesting. Just reveal both consoles already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Developers have got to have dev kits of both by now. I know Sony got theirs out sooner, but since MS has already got a form factor and Phil Spencer says he's already been playing his at home, some devs have got to have kits by now. I realize that dev kits can change as console specs change, but there's got to be a ballpark on each of these by now. It's only a matter of time before the developers start whispering to the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 This whole tightly controlling leaks this time around thing is bullshit. Let some good stuff spill already. But we do have "insider" information basically confirming the 12TF for the X, and we have literally nothing like that at all for the PS5 other than people saying both consoles are close in power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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