Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Congratulations to Disney on the further consolidation of the media industry hellscape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 One step closer to Bojack Horseman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 It’s fun seeing that nerds are okay with this because all their superheroes can be in the same shitty movies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I mean don't get me wrong, I am glad that X-Men and F4 are now going to be a part of the MCU. But the price for that is too great here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 What did it cost? Everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 There were no good options here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, TwinIon said: There were no good options here. Absolutely, but this is is the greater of the two evils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonseeker Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 This is awful. For X-men and just movies in general. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 40 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Absolutely, but this is is the greater of the two evils. I'm not really sure about that. There's the evil of content consolidation vs the evil of content being weaponized in the service of distribution. The evils of the former are clear, those of the latter have yet to really materialize. Comcast's purchase of NBC/Universal was only recently let off the leash, AT&T only just bought Time Warner (assuming the appeal doesn't change anything), and net neutrality is still freshly in the grave. Disney as a dominant force in content is still reliant on that content to generate revenue, so their incentives will always be to get more people to see their stuff, and you end up with things like Movies Anywhere. These other conglomerates have so much incentive to put up barriers and make their platforms the only or best place to get their stuff. I don't think it's clear how these mergers of distribution and content creators is going to shake out. It could be that net neutrality is reinstituted, mitigating the worst consequences of those mergers, and the distribution side ends up paying for more and better content. Or maybe AT&T and Comcast end up destroying their media brands in service of their delivery platforms. Mega Disney is obviously bad, but I think we'll have to wait and see if it really ends up being worse than the alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurdyb1 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: Absolutely, but this is is the greater of the two evils. I think I'm in this boat as well. Comcast can piss off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Hurdyb1 said: I think I'm in this boat as well. Comcast can piss off. If you're in the same boat as me, then you "favor" Comcast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurdyb1 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Guess I'm not, I'm not all into the multimedia details like folks are. Hell, I don't watch TV like most folks in general. But from where I stand, if anybody would ask my opinion on Comcast, it would be negative just from what I have seen prior to this bid. I just don't watch TV enough to care but I know there was a lot more at stake here than just the X-Men and FF with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I'm no fan of all the consolidation going on but Comcast is the worst company ever. I don't want Disney owning everything and exerting more pressure on theaters and the like, but Disney at a bare minimum does have some good content creators and directors under their umbrella. Comcast has proven to be nothing but a disaster as the owner of NBC. The network is worse in every respect when it comes to sports, original programming, and news than it was 10 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Dragonseeker said: This is awful. For X-men and just movies in general. The x-men movies are mostly forgettable. I’ve recently watched the older ones and it really makes me appreciate the MCU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Disney's handling of Star Wars has been inconsistent, but the MCU has been all-in-all pretty great. I'll let the whiners bitch and complain about how this is the end of good comic book movies while I sit back and enjoy the benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Comcast has the lowest customer satisfaction rating in the country and even the IRS has a higher rating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonseeker Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 hours ago, johnny said: The x-men movies are mostly forgettable. I’ve recently watched the older ones and it really makes me appreciate the MCU. MCU movies are mostly forgettable too. The difference is X-men has Deadpool, Logan, Days of the Future Past. Fox has shown that they are willing to go past your typical superhero stories and in to R rated territory. I am not convinced Marvel will do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Dragonseeker said: MCU movies are mostly forgettable too. The difference is X-men has Deadpool, Logan, Days of the Future Past. Fox has shown that they are willing to go past your typical superhero stories and in to R rated territory. I am not convinced Marvel will do the same. They have Deadpool and Logan. Apocalypse was fucking awful. I think Days of Future Past being great happened by accident considering their track record. The Guardians movies are great. This board loves Thor Ragnarok. Black Panther was great. Infinity War was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonseeker Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 On 7/19/2018 at 5:44 PM, johnny said: They have Deadpool and Logan. Apocalypse was fucking awful. I think Days of Future Past being great happened by accident considering their track record. The Guardians movies are great. This board loves Thor Ragnarok. Black Panther was great. Infinity War was great. Actually, they have Deadpool, Logan, Days of the Future Past, First Class, and X2. Guardians are great for a laugh. Thor Ragnarok is great fun. Black Panther was good, except for the ending. Infinity was great. The point is, Marvel movies are fun, but they almost never even attempt to be anything more. Or different. They have no guts. Infinity War is the only movie with true guts. But even that, we'll see how Avengers 4 address the "death" of characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Dragonseeker said: Actually, they have Deadpool, Logan, Days of the Future Past, First Class, and X2. Guardians are great for a laugh. Thor Ragnarok is great fun. Black Panther was good, except for the ending. Infinity was great. The point is, Marvel movies are fun, but they almost never even attempt to be anything more. Or different. They have no guts. Infinity War is the only movie with true guts. But even that, we'll see how Avengers 4 address the "death" of characters. X2 doesn’t hold up imo. Have you seen First Class recently? There are some cool ass parts but so much of that movie is boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonseeker Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Not sure why you think it is boring. It is actually a movie that attempts to tell a story through the characters. I think Ant-Man is boring as hell. Everything is going on, and nothing I care about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Fox did a fabulous job with Fan4stic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Dragonseeker said: Not sure why you think it is boring. It is actually a movie that attempts to tell a story through the characters. And I don’t think it worked. It was boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gamer.tv Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 On 7/20/2018 at 1:44 AM, johnny said: They have Deadpool and Logan. Apocalypse was fucking awful. I think Days of Future Past being great happened by accident considering their track record. The Guardians movies are great. This board loves Thor Ragnarok. Black Panther was great. Infinity War was great. Watched it this morning and after really hating the tone, ended up really enjoying it. Genuine laugh out loud moments, though as with all movies outside of the MCU main canon, it's hard to care about the antagonist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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