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3 minutes ago, Biggie said:

Aliens. Look at the hieroglyphics. They are wearing Apple Watches and using smart phones. And not just in Egypt but all around the globe where pyramids were built.   

 

What!? I never once heard of that and I've caught episodes of ancient aliens. This seems odd that they would have the same technology in that time that is the tech we currently have now. That's kinda like time travel shit. 

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1 minute ago, best3444 said:

 

What!? I never once heard of that and I've caught episodes of ancient aliens. This seems odd that they would have the same technology in that time that is the tech we currently have now. That's kinda like time travel shit. 

Google it. I watched videos on it. Crazy shit. 

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2 minutes ago, best3444 said:

 

I believe you but it's hard to grasp. So do you personally believe there are aliens out there? I'm torn.

I mean with the amount of galaxy’s and planets that we know about and that’s not including the ones we don’t I’d have to say there is a good chance other people/aliens are out there. 

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17 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

Can you explain to me the concept of "bad faith" first?  I genuinely, honestly don't understand it.

 

I think the most accepted answer would be asking a question which is inherently a logical fallacy, or a question that is more interested in provoking a response rather than being genuinely interested in the answer to the question itself.

 

So like, “Why do left wing pundits deny that the Nazis were a left wing, socialist party? They have socialist right there in the name,” is a bad faith question from anyone with a brain because the Nazis were not left wing, they were not socialists, and we know why they called themselves that.

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Or, I think simply, asking a question you know the answer to, or at least, know the only answer you’ll accept as truth, but are intentionally phrasing it in a way to try to lead the other person to your answer through manipulation. 

 

So, you aren’t asking a question to get an answer, you are asking a question to make a dishonest statement.

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On 12/11/2023 at 5:11 PM, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

Can you explain to me the concept of "bad faith" first?  I genuinely, honestly don't understand it.

Bad faith means you already have a preconceived notion of the answer you want before you even ask the question. At best you're seeking affirmation of beliefs you already have, at worst you're trying to manipulate information to suit your agenda.

 

For example, I recently saw a Prager U video that claimed the US was the first country to ban slavery. The thing is... Thats kind of true if you bend the facts to your needs and squint really hard. See, the US didn't ban slavery itself, it banned the importation of new enslaved people from Africa. See? Technically correct. France banned it first in 1797, but Napoleon reinstituted slavery later, so that doesn't count because of the "no take-backsies" clause. Britain banned the Atlantic slave trade the year before the US did, BUT... The United States  voted to do it 20 years before. Haiti doesn't count because they never allowed the slave trade to begin with.

 

See what I mean? Yes, the United States was, in a very particular lense, the first nation to ban the slave trade. It's bad faith to use that argument as some sort of evidence that the US is inherently colorblind and egalitarian, as Prager U would have you believe.

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On 12/11/2023 at 7:23 PM, Chris- said:

Why is Reconstruction the greatest mistake America ever made?

Because we didn't follow through with it. The Capitalist class always wins. Slave appropriation actually was supposed to happen.

 

Every slave owning land owner should have been stripped of their land after the war. All of them. The land should have been held in a trust with formerly enslaved people given the first opportunity to own said land. Yes, I am aware that would have led to economic collapse of the south. I respond with "fuck em"

 

I will say that Rutherford Hayes takes an unfair beating when it comes to the end of reconstruction. Yes, he only became president in exchange for pulling troops out of the south, but guess what would have happened immediately if tilden became president? He fucking campaigned on ending southern occupation. Reconstruction was doomed to fail by 1876, no matter who was president.

 

We should have punished the rebels. The fact that Jefferson Davis and the one dude who ran the POW camp were the only confederates who ever saw consequences for their actions is stupid.

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On 12/11/2023 at 8:33 PM, Remarkableriots said:

What happened to the aliens that built the pyramids? Also do you think anybody survived Atlantis and could direct descendants from Atlantis still be alive today?

We are the aliens, dummy.

 

The story of Atlantis was a fable, but assuming it's real, we're both descendants from it. In fact, if you only go back ~30 generations, it's almost 100% certain that we have a common ancestor. That's kind of wild to think about. I am a descendant of Charlemagne and Muhammad. So are you, probably.

 

Your ancestors double every generation. If my math is correct, if you go 30 generations back, the 30th generation alone would be over a billion people

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15 hours ago, best3444 said:

 

@Fizzzzle Can you honestly explain how humans built the pyramids in that era?

They pushed rocks up a hill.

 

It's actually not rocket surgery. They had teams of thousands of people. They would build dirt ramps to move the massive blocks into place.

 

We build large buildings with cranes, they built large buildings by making a big pile of dirt.

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1 hour ago, gamer.tv said:


Does this mean I’ve won? 

It just means when you get a topic that is so complex it would take the writing of an entire novel that it makes me go ".... Ehhh..."

 

The British empire absolutely did more harm than good to anyone who wasn't British (that was the whole point of colonialism) but disentangling the effects of colonialism from modern society given the benefits (or lack there of) of industrialization is something that has earned people PhDs. You're certainly not going to get a concise answer from some drunk pseudo intellectual on the Internet.

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20 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said:

It just means when you get a topic that is so complex it would take the writing of an entire novel that it makes me go ".... Ehhh..."

 

The British empire absolutely did more harm than good to anyone who wasn't British (that was the whole point of colonialism) but disentangling the effects of colonialism from modern society given the benefits (or lack there of) of industrialization is something that has earned people PhDs. You're certainly not going to get a concise answer from some drunk pseudo intellectual on the Internet.

 

Are you still watching how much you drink?

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