Kal-El814 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 20 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: I actually went modest on some things. Like I think 32 gigs of ram is the minimum but for some reason you can have like 128 gigs of ram. Are you even gaming if you're not using a RAM disk? Honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Which Zotac did you get? Can you post a link? I might be willing to trade you my MSI as I like the look of previous Zotac cards a lot. Oh, I wasn’t being sarcastic, I really like how it looks now, so I wanna keep it ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity WWW.ZOTACSTORE.COM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, stepee said: Oh, I wasn’t being sarcastic, I really like how it looks now, so I wanna keep it ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity WWW.ZOTACSTORE.COM Lol I think I misread your post; I somehow read "I really like" as "I really dislike" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 53 minutes ago, stepee said: Oh, I wasn’t being sarcastic, I really like how it looks now, so I wanna keep it ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity WWW.ZOTACSTORE.COM That one looks great. I have a perference for the EVGA designs I saw of the 3xxx. (F) I just hope the new Radeons continue the design of the current cards. I like the look of the Red Devil cards from Power Color but I think I'd prefer the brushed aluminium back plate. I like how the RGB reflects off of it in my case. I need more RGB RAM (just for more RGB) and I should replace the rear fan with an RGB fan. I think the front fans would interfer with the Gundam glass front so I will leave them as not RGB fans. I want to try to do a custom loop but I guess I should wait for video card water blocks before I make that decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Zaku3 said: That one looks great. I have a perference for the EVGA designs I saw of the 3xxx. (F) I just hope the new Radeons continue the design of the current cards. I like the look of the Red Devil cards from Power Color but I think I'd prefer the brushed aluminium back plate. I like how the RGB reflects off of it in my case. I need more RGB RAM (just for more RGB) and I should replace the rear fan with an RGB fan. I think the front fans would interfer with the Gundam glass front so I will leave them as not RGB fans. I want to try to do a custom loop but I guess I should wait for video card water blocks before I make that decision. I’d love a water cooler setup with a nice etched design like yours some day, maybe for my ddr5 build. But I’m 100% paying someone to do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Still processing, but they did say it would be processed next day. But my bank account finally was charged! Never was happier to see 1750 leave my account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 @Spork3245 Seems review cards for the X and Trio were never sent out. Buuut, the general consensus is that these cards are solid and virtually identical. Reviews start tonight/tomorrow. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 48 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: @Spork3245 Seems review cards for the X and Trio were never sent out. Buuut, the general consensus is that these cards are solid and virtually identical. Reviews start tonight/tomorrow. Then how are there so many unboxings from places? MADDENING! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 Just now, Spork3245 said: Then how are there so many unboxings from places? MADDENING! I'm thinking, and mind you they could be lying, that these units came out a few days after the founders and AIB flagship cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: I'm thinking, and mind you they could be lying, that these units came out a few days after the founders and AIB flagship cards. Sounds like the BIOS may be capped at 480watts, so a 4x 8pin cable may not make a difference anyway too. However, the person who noted that in that reddit thread also mentioned that going from 300w to 450w only nets a ~2% difference, so 450w to 600w is likely similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Sounds like the BIOS may be capped at 480watts, so a 4x 8pin cable may not make a difference anyway too. However, the person who noted that in that reddit thread also mentioned that going from 300w to 450w only nets a ~2% difference, so 450w to 600w is likely similar. Right, and frankly it seems like the watt usage on these cards is being overblown a touch. Able, is not required. Conversly, people thinking they can underclock these cards might be in for a bad surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Just now, Mr.Vic20 said: Right, and frankly it seems like the watt usage on these cards is being overblown a touch. Able, is not required. Conversly, people thinkiong they can underclock these cards might be in for a bad surprise. I saw a video that was labeled "please don't even think about under volting your 4090", but I didn't watch it because I hate those click bait titles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Seeing how easy it is to get one, I’m now actually tempted to put an order in. I completely am over the hunt for electronics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Seeing how easy it is to get one, I’m now actually tempted to put an order in. I completely am over the hunt for electronics Welcome to pushers anonymous! We don't judge, we just push! Did I say push?! I mean HELP! Let us help you agree with our vision of a powerful visual future! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Seeing how easy it is to get one, I’m now actually tempted to put an order in. I completely am over the hunt for electronics It was easy for about 10-15 minutes if you checked newegg and maybe some manufacturer store sites fwiw. BestBuy never showed any stock, I don't believe Amazon did either, nor did nVidia's store. However, I don't think these will be too hard to find after a few shipments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 41 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Seeing how easy it is to get one, I’m now actually tempted to put an order in. I completely am over the hunt for electronics 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 @Spork3245 Tracking number received! Arrives Oct 19th! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 I’ve been thinking about the reviews and, even without AI frame generation, I’m honestly trying to think of the last time we had a performance gap this large. I went back and looked at some benches for some cards I remember being a big deal, and I think the closest I may have found is the performance jump of the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 vs the GeForce 3 Ti 500 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I’ve been thinking about the reviews and, even without AI frame generation, I’m honestly trying to think of the last time we had a performance gap this large. I went back and looked at some benches for some cards I remember being a big deal, and I think the closest I may have found is the performance jump of the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 vs the GeForce 3 Ti 500 Yeah, this launch is bonkers expensive, but the leap in power is proportionatly bonkers, somehow! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I’ve been thinking about the reviews and, even without AI frame generation, I’m honestly trying to think of the last time we had a performance gap this large. I went back and looked at some benches for some cards I remember being a big deal, and I think the closest I may have found is the performance jump of the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 vs the GeForce 3 Ti 500 Yep! That was my takeaway from the benchmarks, even without dlss the jump is so large, it’s been a long long time since we’ve seen this and will probably be a long time until we see it again. With DLSS3 added, it might be the biggest jump we ever see again in our sad little lives! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Can’t wait for AMD to blow this away, right @nextgen? oh wait lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 Now...do I upgrade my CPU? Is it really needed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Man, that Last of Us remake is going to be pretty crazy at 4k/120. Edit: Oh right, Uncharted 4 at 4k/120 will be pretty crazy too and cdkeys has it for $35 preorder, ordered! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 It’s funny because my initial thought was the 980 vs the 780… but the 980 wasn’t that much faster, it just ran a lot cooler and had way less power consumption. So, I thought “oh, maybe the GeForce 3 vs GeForce 2 Ultra”… no, the GeForce 2 Ultra BEAT the GeForce 3 in DX7 benchmarks with the GeForce 3 only winning (noticeably) in DX8 games. Which is weird as I remembered how badly I wanted a GeForce 3 for the new DX8 features (pixel and vertex shaders) and hated being stuck on a GeForce 2 Pro at the time (even though apparently performance was almost 1:1 in most games ) - I guess the 3 wasn’t worth it until the Ti 500 came out. Then I remembered my next card was a GeForce 4 Ti 4600 so I checked the benches and damn, it was 45% faster than the GeForce 3 Ti 500. Absolute night and day performance gap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Now...do I upgrade my CPU? Is it really needed? Don’t you have a 12900k? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 Just now, Spork3245 said: Don’t you have a 12900k? Correction, I had a 12900K! (OK it still installed) Now I have a 13900K! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: It’s funny because my initial thought was the 980 vs the 780… but the 980 wasn’t that much faster, it just ran a lot cooler and had way less power consumption. So, I thought “oh, maybe the GeForce 3 vs GeForce 2 Ultra”… no, the GeForce 2 Ultra BEAT the GeForce 3 in DX7 benchmarks with the GeForce 3 only winning (noticeably) in DX8 games. Which is weird as I remembered how badly I wanted a GeForce 3 for the new DX8 features (pixel and vertex shaders) and hated being stuck on a GeForce 2 Pro at the time (even though apparently performance was almost 1:1 in most games ) - I guess the 3 wasn’t worth it until the Ti 500 came out. Then I remembered my next card was a GeForce 4 Ti 4600 so I checked the benches and damn, it was 45% faster than the GeForce 3 Ti 500. Absolute night and day performance gap. Check this generational breakdown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: It’s funny because my initial thought was the 980 vs the 780… but the 980 wasn’t that much faster, it just ran a lot cooler and had way less power consumption. So, I thought “oh, maybe the GeForce 3 vs GeForce 2 Ultra”… no, the GeForce 2 Ultra BEAT the GeForce 3 in DX7 benchmarks with the GeForce 3 only winning (noticeably) in DX8 games. Which is weird as I remembered how badly I wanted a GeForce 3 for the new DX8 features (pixel and vertex shaders) and hated being stuck on a GeForce 2 Pro at the time (even though apparently performance was almost 1:1 in most games ) - I guess the 3 wasn’t worth it until the Ti 500 came out. Then I remembered my next card was a GeForce 4 Ti 4600 so I checked the benches and damn, it was 45% faster than the GeForce 3 Ti 500. Absolute night and day performance gap. I think the 780ti to 980ti would still be the closest, but it doesn’t quite work because the 980ti was like half a year later after 9000 launched, and still not as big of a gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, stepee said: I think the 780ti to 980ti would still be the closest, but it doesn’t quite work because the 980ti was like half a year later after 9000 launched, and still not as big of a gap. Yea, I’m not counting refreshes of an active generation vs a previous generation. Just top end of the previous generation (ie: GeForce 2 Ultra) vs top end of a new generations launch (ie: GeForce 3, not the Ti 200 and 500 which were the refresh). The 980 Ti was a marvel even vs the base 980, though. It still can run most games maxed out (obviously no ray tracing and not with maxed AA) at 1440p and get around 60fps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Check this generational breakdown I just checked benchmarks, and I realized they’re ignoring refreshes. To get to that huge of a jump from the 9xx to the 10xx, it would be the 980 vs the 1080, which ignores the 980 Ti. The jump from the 980 Ti was around a 30% increase for the 1080. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Yea, I’m not counting refreshes of an active generation vs a previous generation. Just top end of the previous generation (ie: GeForce 2 Ultra) vs top end of a new generations launch (ie: GeForce 3, not the Ti 200 and 500 which were the refresh). The 980 Ti was a marvel even vs the base 980, though. It still can run most games maxed out (obviously no ray tracing and not with maxed AA) at 1440p and get around 60fps. I think the closest comparison would be it’s like if the 980ti launched with the 980 and wasn’t a refresh, and then had a cherry on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, stepee said: I think the closest comparison would be it’s like if the 980ti launched with the 980 and wasn’t a refresh, and then had a cherry on top. I think the 45% increase of the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 vs the GeForce 3 Ti 500 works pretty well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 I'm just thrilled that 4K/120fps will now be an semi common option rather than an occasional luxury! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Just now, Spork3245 said: I think the 45% increase of the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 vs the GeForce 3 Ti 500 works pretty well Until you add dlss3 But yeah the main takeaway about the 4090’s performance gains is really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 Oh, and this time next year I might be booting up an Ubisoft game that on day 1, plays at FPS above 60! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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