b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 43 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: Putin’s view is that borders change, and so the borders of the old Russian imperium are still in play for Moscow to dominate now. Mf doesn’t realize that borders change, yes, and have been forever, but that for the past century+ they have been changing towards fracturing into more regional national identities, not amalgamations like the USSR/Russian Empire/whatever. Russian nationalism may play well at home but it’s a complete nonstarter in these former Russian Empire/Soviet Republics. But if you subscribe to this Russian nationalism you don’t care about that because as Russians you paternalistically know what is good for these “little Russians” (in the case of Ukraine/Ukrainians) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 Some EU sources saying Poland already gave some, others saying none will be given. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Some EU sources saying Poland already gave some, others saying none will be given. Is Ukraine sure they want to be with these idiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 So...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Mf doesn’t realize that borders change, yes, and have been forever, but that for the past century+ they have been changing towards fracturing into more regional national identities, not amalgamations like the USSR/Russian Empire/whatever. Russian nationalism may play well at home but it’s a complete nonstarter in these former Russian Empire/Soviet Republics. But if you subscribe to this Russian nationalism you don’t care about that because as Russians you paternalistically know what is good for these “little Russians” (in the case of Ukraine/Ukrainians) This week's episode of Revolutions might as well be about this exact moment. 10.88- The Moscow Directive WWW.REVOLUTIONSPODCAST.COM To Moscow! Direct Link: 10.88- The Moscow Directive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: This week's episode of Revolutions might as well be about this exact moment. 10.88- The Moscow Directive WWW.REVOLUTIONSPODCAST.COM To Moscow! Direct Link: 10.88- The Moscow Directive Listening to it last night I kept asking myself if he was making the parallels on purpose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Listening to it last night I kept asking myself if he was making the parallels on purpose There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that's exactly what Mike was doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Reputator said: ‘Yes, He Would’: Fiona Hill on Putin and Nukes - POLITICO WWW.POLITICO.COM Putin is trying to take down the entire world order, the veteran Russia watcher said in an interview. But there are ways even ordinary Americans can fight back. Fiona Hill is one of the most insightful and intelligent people I've heard speak about foreign affairs, and she really shines a light on how utterly we failed to stop this from happening. Ms. Hill tends to be a bit too much of a neo-conservative hawk for my tastes, but that doesn't detract from the overall quality of this analysis at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, SuperSpreader said: That's quite the line of BTR-80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: SIGINT analysts are absolutely feasting on this: Further elaboration on absolutely shocking revelation that many Russian units are broadcasting "in the clear". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Man I'm so depressed. I'm hating my job rn and people are dying because a bunch of fucking boomers, Joe Manchin is our Prime Minister, and maybe we die in a nuclear Holocaust. I've already planned it, if we know it's coming I'm just gonna spend my last days with my wife playing with my dogs as we turn to dust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Some EU sources saying Poland already gave some, others saying none will be given. No fighter plane transfers to Ukraine through allied airspace WWW.STRIPES.COM NATO airspace will not be used to transfer fighter planes to the Ukrainian military, alliance leaders said Tuesday after a meeting in Poland. Seems the bigger issue is having fighters fly directly for from a NATO country to Ukraine. Seems bringing them over by land would probably be fine, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 MSNBC right now saying Facebook and Twitter gonna be fighting Russian disinformation. I guess that check didn't clear as people indicated earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSpreader Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: No fighter plane transfers to Ukraine through allied airspace WWW.STRIPES.COM NATO airspace will not be used to transfer fighter planes to the Ukrainian military, alliance leaders said Tuesday after a meeting in Poland. Seems the bigger issue is having fighters fly directly for from a NATO country to Ukraine. Seems bringing them over by land would probably be fine, though. Can they fly them to a gifted/donated carrier then to Ukraine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: No fighter plane transfers to Ukraine through allied airspace WWW.STRIPES.COM NATO airspace will not be used to transfer fighter planes to the Ukrainian military, alliance leaders said Tuesday after a meeting in Poland. Seems the bigger issue is having fighters fly directly for from a NATO country to Ukraine. Seems bringing them over by land would probably be fine, though. This is an EU initiative, not a NATO one, which is the reason for this situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Uaarkson Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 8 hours ago, Jason said: Putin is a worthless motherfucker. I’ve never wanted to see him capped this bad before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CastlevaniaNut18 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 35 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Man I'm so depressed. I'm hating my job rn and people are dying because a bunch of fucking boomers, Joe Manchin is our Prime Minister, and maybe we die in a nuclear Holocaust. I've already planned it, if we know it's coming I'm just gonna spend my last days with my wife playing with my dogs as we turn to dust. I feel you. My work has been shitty, surrounded by shitty people, then there this shit and I’m just kinda down on everything lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I feel you. My work has been shitty, surrounded by shitty people, then there this shit and I’m just kinda down on everything lately. Ditto with you guys. I have barely been able to focus on work and when I had my 1:1 with my boss she admitted she’s struggling too so at least I’m not worried from a work performance perspective. Oh well… at least my Steam Deck arrives tomorrow so there’s that (yay escapism). 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 It's unsurprising that many -- if not, most -- people are feeling what is effectively a collective PTSD due to two years of a global pandemic with a devastating conflict at the tail-end of it. It also doesn't help that this is occurring during winter when the relative lack of sunlight in the Northern Hemisphere also acts as a mood suppressant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 This is a significant development for Beijing on the world's stage: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 42 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: maybe we die in a nuclear Holocaust No worries dude, I'm an Iron Curtain kid and you learn to live with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: It's unsurprising that many -- if not, most -- people are feeling what is effectively a collective PTSD due to two years of a global pandemic with a devastating conflict at the tail-end of it. It also doesn't help that this is occurring during winter when the relative lack of sunlight in the Northern Hemisphere also acts as a mood suppressant. War is vile on every level but winter war is certainly especially grim. You look at those images of Ukraine's cities and can taste the post-nuclear-apocalypse in your mouth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: No worries dude, I'm an Iron Curtain kid and you learn to live with it! Great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: It's unsurprising that many -- if not, most -- people are feeling what is effectively a collective PTSD due to two years of a global pandemic with a devastating conflict at the tail-end of it. It also doesn't help that this is occurring during winter when the relative lack of sunlight in the Northern Hemisphere also acts as a mood suppressant. I personally believe a real part of the problem is that we live in a more global environment these days, YET these sorts of things happen around us, and we have no ability to hep make things better. It constantly reminds us that we're all just helpless and stuck at living in the whim of lots of bad actors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, brucoe said: I personally believe a real part of the problem is that we live in a more global environment these days, YET these sorts of things happen around us, and we have no ability to hep make things better. It constantly reminds us that we're all just helpless and stuck at living in the whim of lots of bad actors. I’ve definitely come to that realization in the last 5 years or so. This is just another level of awful and I hate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Rogan is everybody’s uncle that reflexively hits that share button on FB when something tickles their brain. A good reminder to be very careful what sources you use in fast moving news like an armed conflict. The misinformation machine of social media has created a whole new layer to the fog of war. USA Today had a reporter who was just fact checking photos and videos that were going around allegedly from the present, and showing where they actually came from. The engagement some of these photos and videos had were truly staggering. Steven Seagal is not fighting in Ukraine, despite what Joe Rogan says CONSEQUENCE.NET Rogan shared and then deleted a fake article that showed actor Steven Seagal fighting with Russian Special Forces against Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, brucoe said: I personally believe a real part of the problem is that we live in a more global environment these days, YET these sorts of things happen around us, and we have no ability to hep make things better. It constantly reminds us that we're all just helpless and stuck at living in the whim of lots of bad actors. I talked to my girlfriend about this last night. How interconnected we are these days and how increasingly helpless it makes us feel vs. back in the day you'd read a disconnected article in the paper or two, see something blurry and 'distant' on TV and that was it. Now you see things like selfies of teens with their Pokemon toys in a bunker "live" from Ukraine and can literally interact with them personally, you feel so connected and extra helpless. I mentioned to her that I think it's good in the way that it makes people way more actively anti-war than I've ever experienced even when still living in Europe with conflicts driving distances anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 If the thumbnail doesn't show, it's a man filming from a window in Borodyanka when a Russian tank fires at him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Derek Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: If the thumbnail doesn't show, it's a man filming from a window in Borodyanka when a Russian tank fires at him And this fucking guy just moves to another window?! Holy shit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 40 minutes ago, Comet said: Ditto with you guys. I have barely been able to focus on work and when I had my 1:1 with my boss she admitted she’s struggling too so at least I’m not worried from a work performance perspective. Oh well… at least my Steam Deck arrives tomorrow so there’s that (yay escapism). Wow congrats on getting first shipment. I am with everyone here about being depressed about the current events as we hurdle into a future of fires, droughts, and famine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, SuperSpreader said: Man I'm so depressed. I'm hating my job rn and people are dying because a bunch of fucking boomers, Joe Manchin is our Prime Minister, and maybe we die in a nuclear Holocaust. I've already planned it, if we know it's coming I'm just gonna spend my last days with my wife playing with my dogs as we turn to dust. I hear that. I've been trying to eat less lately, but it's almost like what's the point? The Dems are going to get crushed in 2022 and 2024, and we'll be right back to 2016 with Trump as president with the GOP in full control of everything and could possibly use then to drop all pretenses and go full fascist theocracy mode. It makes the option of Putin launching nukes almost seem like a welcome alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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