Massdriver Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Quote CNN)San Francisco will become the first US city to effectively ban e-cigarette sales, after the city's board of supervisors voted in favor of an ordinance Tuesday. The ordinance says "no person shall sell or distribute an electronic cigarette to a person in San Francisco" unless that product has undergone premarket review by the US Food and Drug Administration. To date, none have. This includes sales in brick-and-mortar stores, as well as online sales shipped to a San Francisco address. The ordinance also applies to flavored tobacco products in addition to e-cigarettes. The measure does not ban the use of vapes among people 21 and older. ... This puts San Francisco -- where leading e-cig maker Juul Labs is headquartered -- at the center of a tense debate. https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/25/health/san-francisco-e-cigarette-ban-sales-bn/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Requiring FDA approval seems fine to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 👎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 After seeing the news story on the kid losing teeth and shattering his jaw when it exploded on him. I support the measure until something is overseen safety wise into these things. They say the won’t allow online sales/shipping, but there is always an online way to get around it. So I don’t see it really hurting these companies profit wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Maybe this will increase the sales of cigarettes in SF so a win for big tobacco? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, silentbob said: After seeing the news story on the kid losing teeth and shattering his jaw when it exploded on him. I support the measure until something is overseen safety wise into these things. They say the won’t allow online sales/shipping, but there is always an online way to get around it. So I don’t see it really hurting these companies profit wise. but smoking is supposed to make you cool and look like a badass. If they cant handle a little explosion they shouldnt do it Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 These things AREN'T FDA-approved?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Just now, SFLUFAN said: These things AREN'T FDA-approved?!? LOLNO it’s the fucking Wild West right right now when it comes to vaping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: Jesus Christ. “It’s safer than smoking,” they said, having little to no idea what they’re inhaling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said: “It’s safer than smoking,” they said, having little to no idea what they’re inhaling. "It's just water vapor yolo" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 ok but what if you use it to inhale marijuana then it's okay right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, SilentWorld said: ok but what if you use it to inhale marijuana then it's okay right. it’s just a plant bro, all natural. Also this hemlock salad is delicious wait ow my limbic system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 From what I recall, the FDA originally set a very short deadline to pass all FDA safety protocols. The story was that most vape makers would have gone out of business because they were too small to get through the process so quickly. The FDA gave these companies an extension to 2022 from my understanding. That means all vape products are under fda jurisdiction, but the devices haven’t had to get through the whole process yet. I have never used a nicotine vaporizer, but I think it’s in our interest to have them be as safe as possible. Maybe 2022 was too long, but if they had stuck to their original deadline, it would have handed the industry over to large established tobacco companies. So I guess I’m conflicted. The FDA also seems to be acting far too slowly regulating cbd extracted from hemp. This stuff is legal even in Texas now, but there’s no over sight on what’s in these products. Texas will at least have some basic regulations soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Idk if a ban is the right thing to do but there are so many kids in jr high and high school that have juuls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 The National Academy of Sciences touched on the harms of e cig use in their 2018 report if anyone is interested: https://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=24952 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: it’s just a plant bro, all natural. Also this hemlock salad is delicious wait ow my limbic system wat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, SilentWorld said: wat Quote Hemlock This is one of the most famous poisonous plants in history — it's the flora responsible for killing Socrates. All parts of the plant contain the relatively simple alkaloid coniine which causes stomach pains, vomiting and progressive paralysis of the central nervous system. Hemlock is also known by several common names, including devil's porridge, beaver poison or poison parsley. https://www.mnn.com/your-home/organic-farming-gardening/photos/13-plants-that-could-kill-you/hemlock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 13 hours ago, Firewithin said: but smoking is supposed to make you cool and look like a badass. If they cant handle a little explosion they shouldnt do it Hide contents The irony in vaping’s case is that it makes you look like the total opposite of a badass. I guess an exploding vape would look a little more badass, to be fair, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 The same city that seems to be perfectly fine with seemingly a third of its residents smoking rock out in the open and in broad daylight. Spoiler Vaping is the douchiest shit on earth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 22 hours ago, John said: I know what hemlock is. I don’t get the connection between hemlock and vaping marijuana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 9 hours ago, SilentWorld said: I know what hemlock is. I don’t get the connection between hemlock and vaping marijuana. A frequent refrain for the legalization of marijuana is that it’s just a plant, it’s natural, etc. That’s true of course, it’s just dumb. Same with people saying vaping is just water vapor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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