thewhyteboar Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: Slavery underpinned the very foundations of American capitalism in both the South and the North. I suggest reading this impressive book to comprehend the full extent of that reality. The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism Everyone should read this book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 @sblfilms @skillzdadirecta Just as a thought exercise, if given the opportunity to do so, how would you respond to Coleman Hughes's position on reparations as described in his testimony today? Should America pay reparations for slavery? Ta-Nehisi Coates v Coleman Hughes https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/19/reparations-slavery-ta-nehisi-coates-v-coleman-hughes?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 @SFLUFAN Honestly I would respond to Coleman Hughes pretty much the same way I responded in this thread... I've known many Coleman Hughes in my life and they think that because they have a bunch of white friends and grew up in inclusive environments, that there's some way to achieve racial equity in this country by "winning over" white people who re resistant to it. he's worried about "dividing the country". One the country is already divided and Two... the only way to move forward is by confronting that division head on. Like the Civil Rights activists and abolitionists did before them. He's on some Professor X shit and while I don't advocate going full Magneto, I DO think that trying to soft shoe the issues and "play nice and respectable" hasn't worked and won't work. Racism needs to be called out unequivocally and unapologetically. Somehow we've entered an era where we are actually afraid to offend racists and calling racists racist is somehow racist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 I agreed with giving money to the survivors of the Japanese American internment camps - they were directly affected by the government's cruelty and unconstitutional actions. But with slavery reparations, everyone who was directly affected has been dead for decades - the last living American slave died in 1971. That isn't to say more needs to be done to work on the lasting effects of slavery and the jim crow era, but I don't believe reparations are the right answer. Ending the war on drugs, investing in inner cities and education, and other things of this nature will help out black communities than reparations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 ...who is "we"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 19 hours ago, mclumber1 said: I agreed with giving money to the survivors of the Japanese American internment camps - they were directly affected by the government's cruelty and unconstitutional actions. But with slavery reparations, everyone who was directly affected has been dead for decades - the last living American slave died in 1971. That isn't to say more needs to be done to work on the lasting effects of slavery and the jim crow era, but I don't believe reparations are the right answer. Ending the war on drugs, investing in inner cities and education, and other things of this nature will help out black communities than reparations. Define "Directly affected". Every Black Person in this country has been "Directly affected" by slavery and the institutions that came after it that reinforced the exploitation of black people by the government. Mass Incarceration, The War on Drugs and the deliberate dumping of drugs in the inner cities in order to fund illegal wars, Redlining... these all happened AFTER Slavery and had a detrimental on the black community in this country up to and including MY generation which came up during the war on drugs and the crack epidemic. 1 minute ago, Jason said: ...who is "we"? You know what she means by"We". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 Quote After praising McConnell’s remarks, Reilly stated that the logistics of paying reparations would be far too difficult before wondering if Native Americans would then be next to request compensation over their treatment. “I mean, obviously both white and black soldiers, frankly, took this country from the Indians—the first people,” Reilly added. “People would argue that the whole world, and I would, the whole world has been reshaped by people taking other people's land,” Ingraham weighed in. “It's called conquest.” https://www.thedailybeast.com/laura-ingraham-dismisses-reparations-no-do-overswe-won-you-lost-thats-that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Yeah they should get some help too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 12:59 PM, SFLUFAN said: Slavery underpinned the very foundations of American capitalism in both the South and the North. I suggest reading this impressive book to comprehend the full extent of that reality. The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism Thanks for the recommendation. It shall soon be on my Kindle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commodore D Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I would prefer the 40 acres of land (eternally tax abated) and the value of a mule to receiving money out right. I'm sure it would be some Three Mile Island or brownfield nonsense though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, Jason said: This is the guy that basically blamed God for him losing his job at Fox News for being a dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Every word O'Reilly wrote was correct. His tone means that he wants you to think it's not. But those words in that order make a true statement. Also... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 10:05 PM, Jason said: ...who is "we"? Obviously the uppity blacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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