Jason Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 The laptops will be first and the desktops are coming later, report claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I'm probably gonna buy one of these. I'm excited, I haven't bought a new (personal) computer in like 9 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 The Air seems like the obvious place to start, though I might have guess that a mini might join it since they pretty much already have those going with the dev units. Launching with the Pro indicates they have faith in their performance, which isn't much of a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foosh Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 With remote work gaining traction, i wouldn't be surprised if overall total laptop sales started decline and people went back to desktops. A mac mini should be priority for that scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Apple just had their best quarter of Mac sales ever during the quarantine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 11:04 AM, foosh said: With remote work gaining traction, i wouldn't be surprised if overall total laptop sales started decline and people went back to desktops. A mac mini should be priority for that scenario. Yeah, but travel will eventually be possible again, and people able to work remotely are going to want the ability to work from wherever once travel resumes, not just a desktop at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I still think most people still want laptops. I rarely go out with mine, but I use it all over my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I haven't touched my desktop for work in almost a yeat. I've been using my laptop almost exclusively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I'm surprised Apple hasn't tried making a home console since they definitely could compete with Microsoft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 They could have easily made the Apple TV into something way way way cooler than it is. Apple stumbled ass backwards like a gang of drunken monkeys into controlling the most successful gaming platform in the history of the world. They really have no idea how to do gaming... it's not in their DNA. It's very weird, but yes, they could be a major player with minimal effort (well, minimal for the worlds richest company). They have all the pieces in place, they just need to make the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Laptops + docking stations (for mouse, keyboard, and larger monitors) seems to be the thing most workplaces are converging on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 14 hours ago, Remarkableriots said: I'm surprised Apple hasn't tried making a home console since they definitely could compete with Microsoft. http://en.wikipedia.org//static/favicon/wikipedia.ico Apple Pippin - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 We'll find out in about 35 minutes what the announcement is. https://live.arstechnica.com/apples-november-10-2020-one-more-thing-event/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, ort said: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY GIF As someone who got the first Intel MBP back in 2006, wait for the second revision of these before jumping in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 BORING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I’m curious how the performance differs, if all three computers are using the same chip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, Emblazon said: I’m curious how the performance differs, if all three computers are using the same chip. The iPhones that get released use the same chip across the entire lineup, right? What's the performance spread on those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Boring designs, very high performance and battery life claims. As I expected, we did get a Mini. Will be very interesting to see how their claims stack up to real world performance, especially for apps that aren't optimized. Very exciting day for computing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Emblazon said: I’m curious how the performance differs, if all three computers are using the same chip. I am also very curious. I'm going to get either an Air or the Pro, but I don't really know how much more I'm actually getting for the extra $300 bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, ort said: I am also very curious. I'm going to get either an Air or the Pro, but I don't really know how much more I'm actually getting for the extra $300 bucks. You’re getting a touchbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Also, only up to 16GB of RAM? It says “Unified”, and I know that Apple devices tend to handle RAM better than Windows, but that still seems awfully low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Emblazon said: Also, only up to 16GB of RAM? It says “Unified”, and I know that Apple devices tend to handle RAM better than Windows, but that still seems awfully low. Well it's not like these things will support any games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jason said: Well it's not like these things will support any games. I’m asking for my friend... named “Excel”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Also, I know Apple said they would, but it’s still impressive that these machines have USB4/Thunderbolt without Intel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 USB4, but Thunderbolt 3 (not 4) New M1 Mac Models Feature Thunderbolt 3 Ports, Not Newer Thunderbolt 4 WWW.MACRUMORS.COM The new M1-equipped MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini are each equipped with two USB-C ports that support USB 4 and Thunderbolt, but as it turns... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I will be buying one of these, but am going to wait on some reviews and try to figure out the performance differences between the Air and the 13" Pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, ort said: USB4, but Thunderbolt 3 (not 4) New M1 Mac Models Feature Thunderbolt 3 Ports, Not Newer Thunderbolt 4 WWW.MACRUMORS.COM The new M1-equipped MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini are each equipped with two USB-C ports that support USB 4 and Thunderbolt, but as it turns... Hooray, something to add to the clusterfuck of there being absolutely zero indication what a USB-C cable is capable of until you plug it in and find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jason said: Hooray, something to add to the clusterfuck of there being absolutely zero indication what a USB-C cable is capable of until you plug it in and find out. That's kind of the point of USB4. It's supposed to bridge Thunderbolt 3 and USB4 under one standard without having to move to a new physical connector. Thunderbolt 4 is where it gets stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: That's kind of the point of USB4. It's supposed to bridge Thunderbolt 3 and USB4 under one standard without having to move to a new physical connector. Thunderbolt 4 is where it gets stupid. But there's already a fucking mess of USB-C cables out there that do a wide variety of things. You can even buy USB 2.0 cables with Type C connectors! It's just fucking beyond me that they didn't stick with the color coding like they've used on the USB 3.0 Type A connectors so that you can actually tell what the cable can do just by looking at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoJoe Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I just bought a new 13" pro last month. I was thinking of returning it and getting one of the new M1 chip ones but I would lose 2 ports (I have 4 right now). I think I'll stick with mine. It's not like I need that faster performance. This macbook is already crazy fast. The almost double battery life is tempting though. If they had the option for 4 ports I would consider it but with only two it's already limited since the charger takes up one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jason said: But there's already a fucking mess of USB-C cables out there that do a wide variety of things. You can even buy USB 2.0 cables with Type C connectors! It's just fucking beyond me that they didn't stick with the color coding like they've used on the USB 3.0 Type A connectors so that you can actually tell what the cable can do just by looking at it. Well, yes. There is that, but that was bound to happen. USBC-A cables didn't fully adhere to their standard and USB-C cables running at 2.0 aren't really at spec, there just cheap to make. Either way, I feel that pain. Also, don't get started with the fact that even a full speed USB-C 3.1 cable might but be able to handle 60w charging. I've made it a point that EVERY USB-C-USB-C cable in my house can handle 60w and higher and that every USB-C charger also offers up 60w or more. That means if you see a cable in my house, it'll charge a phone, laptop, Switch, or whatever. I just toss out anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I really want to know more about what the fan in the Pro does or does not do. Are we looking at the kind of deal where it doesn't matter at all and the Air and the Pro are equals and paying more for the Pro is silly and the fan is never used or barely matters? Are we looking at the Air being seriously handicapped and not being able to get anywhere near the Pro due to the lack of heat dissipation? Surely the truth is in the middle, but where? Apple really didn't give us many real world numbers on these things. Hopefully reviewers have them now and the embargo lifts sooner rather than later. It should since they ship next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foosh Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I kind of want a Macbook Air but don't really need one lol. It would be a paper weight. I'll wait for gen2 I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Macbook Not So Pro if these top out at 16GB of RAM. I am interested in seeing real world performance though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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