Keyser_Soze Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 In case you weren't aware Monday Night's game is in Mexico! Maybe Mexico will have more Chargers fans than LA! Games to 👀 this week > Texans at Ravens - (Lots of points will be scored (maybe, I probably jinxed it)) > Jest at Washington (didn't these teams play already?) > Saints at Tampa Bay (Just based on exciting scoring that probably will happen) > Pats at Philadelphia (I just realized I'm mixing team names and then the city, weird!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: > Jest at Washington (didn't these teams play already?) Your subliminal message on whether this game is worth watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 hours ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Your subliminal message on whether this game is worth watching. I guess I was thinking of the Dolphins and Washington which at the time was the two worst teams playing so now it's kinda the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 TBH, given the quality of the other games, I will probably just watch the Raiders/Bengals game, and pretend it is entertaining football. @Keyser_Soze FWIW, this weekend I am a Chargers fan! Go Chargers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: FWIW, this weekend I am a Chargers fan! Go Chargers! I'd like them to lose. Fuck em! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I meant michael Thomas in the gambling thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 Juju got murdered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 Fight at the end! What happened to protecting the quarterback? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Biggie Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 That helmet as a weapon is gonna cost him the remainder of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I don’t feel one bit of sympathy for Rudolph. He was trying to take Garrett’s helmet off, a clear signal of intent to injure. Suspend them both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I don’t feel one bit of sympathy for Rudolph. He was trying to take Garrett’s helmet off, a clear signal of intent to injure. Suspend them both. Nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Nah What are you “Nah”ing? Rudolph unquestionably tries to pull Garrett’s helmet off when they go to the ground, that’s what causes Garrett to rip Rudolph’s helmet off and whack him over the head with it. Losing a fight sucks when you escalated it in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 To top it off, Rudolph chased after Garrett once they had been separated by the Steelers O-line guys. Could have ended there but he wanted more... and Garrett gave it to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Well, that was ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 52 minutes ago, sblfilms said: To top it off, Rudolph chased after Garrett once they had been separated by the Steelers O-line guys. Could have ended there but he wanted more... and Garrett gave it to him Nah I see Rudolph getting pinned to the ground, he’s struggling to get a 600 pound man off of him and even while still trying to get up the dude is fucking him Garret pulls off his helmet which is already a penalty by that time and he runs after him in frustration then Garret pounds him on the head with the helmet while the other guy comes up from behind and knocks him to the ground. Nice try though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Attended my first Browns vs. Steelers victory...... It ended like that. Waited to see the knee, and got a daily double. Edit: Wouldn’t be surprise if Garrett is gone for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 There’s no justification in that video for Garrett to hit him with a helmet. Dude took it way too far. Had it ended with a fist fight I would have been fine but Garrett brought a weapon into it. He should be done for the season (with other smaller suspensions to others) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Nah I see Rudolph getting pinned to the ground, he’s struggling to get a 600 pound man off of him and even while still trying to get up the dude is fucking him Garret pulls off his helmet which is already a penalty by that time and he runs after him in frustration then Garret pounds him on the head with the helmet while the other guy comes up from behind and knocks him to the ground. Nice try though Not sure you wrote that in English, but you agree that Rudolph ran after him because he got his feelings hurt once they were already separated. You’re almost there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Wow. Wish I had stayed up to watch the game. Suspensions? I think it should be: Myles Garret -- 4-6 games for using the helmet as a weapon Maurkice Pouncey -- 2-3 games for fighting, and kicking Garret in the head while he is on the ground Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer -- 1-2 games for trying to (not sure if successful) kick Garrett in the groin, for trying to rip off his helment, and then getting up and going after him Fines for Ogunjobi, and for every player that left the bench and ran onto the field. A message to each team that they will lose draft picks if this escalates in their next game in December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Suspensions? I think it should be: Seems about right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Not sure you wrote that in English, but you agree that Rudolph ran after him because he got his feelings hurt once they were already separated. You’re almost there! You said he was trying to injure him, he wasn't, but Garret certainly was and he accomplished that mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: You said he was trying to injure him, he wasn't, but Garret certainly was and he accomplished that mission. Yes, he tried to take the protective gear off another person. This is plainly seen as he grasps at the back of Garrett’s helmet and pulls towards him. Why would you be pulling any part of a person towards you if you were just trying to get them off of you? This is also why Garrett then goes to pull Rudolph’s helmet off. Watch the video some more until you can admit that Rudolph was trying to pull Garrett’s helmet off. Once they were separated, Rudolph proceeds to run after them to...do what, hug it out? No, to continue the fight. He just didn’t expect to get his with his own helmet, which to be fair to him NOBODY ever expects to get hit with their own helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: You said he was trying to injure him, he wasn't, but Garret certainly was and he accomplished that mission. Garrett didn't injure anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Yes, he tried to take the protective gear off another person. This is plainly seen as he grasps at the back of Garrett’s helmet and pulls towards him. Why would you be pulling any part of a person towards you if you were just trying to get them off of you? This is also why Garrett then goes to pull Rudolph’s helmet off. Watch the video some more until you can admit that Rudolph was trying to pull Garrett’s helmet off. Once they were separated, Rudolph proceeds to run after them to...do what, hug it out? No, to continue the fight. He just didn’t expect to get his with his own helmet, which to be fair to him NOBODY ever expects to get hit with their own helmet. You can pull someone off of your body. I know you're a rich billionaire but clearly you are incorrect on this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: You can pull someone off of your body. I know you're a rich billionaire but clearly you are incorrect on this issue. You’re literally the only person I’ve seen say Rudolph wasn’t trying to pull Garrett’s helmet off. Like, this is beyond clear in real time AND even more in slow-mo. And you keep ignoring that Rudolph chased after Garrett to continue the fight after Garrett had already been pulled off him and was being pushed away from Rudolph. Again, was he just going to give Garrett a hug? The idea that Rudolph meant no harm is so laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: I think @Keyser_Sozeis the only human unclear as to what Rudolph was doing there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Amazatron Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 What are we even arguing here? Garrett legally tackled Rudolph at the end of the game, but in that situation, a tackle was completely unnecessary. Rudolph loses his shit and tries to rip Garrett's helmet off. Garrett responds and rips Rudolph's helmet off. Rudolph chases after Garrett. Garrett swings helmet as a weapon at Rudolph's head. Rudolph instigated and overreacted, but Garrett torpedoed past the line. It is not defensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Amazatron said: What are we even arguing here? Garrett legally tackled Rudolph at the end of the game, but in that situation, a tackle was completely unnecessary. Rudolph loses his shit and tries to rip Garrett's helmet off. Garrett responds and rips Rudolph's helmet off. Rudolph chases after Garrett. Garrett swings helmet as a weapon at Rudolph's head. Rudolph instigated and overreacted, but Garrett torpedoed past the line. It is not defensible. @Keyser_Sozesays “FAKE NEWS” to bullet point 2. Everybody agrees on the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbiggsly Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 12 hours ago, sblfilms said: I don’t feel one bit of sympathy for Rudolph. He was trying to take Garrett’s helmet off, a clear signal of intent to injure. Suspend them both. Noted assault expert OJ Simpson agrees with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyser_Soze Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 @sblfilms = Max Kellerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 No -- I didn't see @sblfilms defending Garrett like Max was. Swinging your helmet is indefensible. The "he started it" defence Max referenced is BS. HOWEVER, Rudolph started it -- and even though he was the "victim" (he wasn't hurt) -- I still believe his actions as the instigator are suspension worthy. (Although the NFL apparently doesn't.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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