gamer.tv Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Should the people that create and build business be entitled to a significant profit from it, should it be distributed between the company employees to reflect contribution more accurately, or should it be distributed more widely (businesses or people of a certain size be significantly taxes and use as part of national funding). Where do you sit with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Absolutely not. The very existence of billionaires represents the failures of economics, politics, and morality. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 yes but only one and that one should be me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Instead of a bunch of billionaires we should have just one trillionaire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Just now, stepee said: Instead of a bunch of billionaires we should have just one trillionaire. that's fine too but also me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 40 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Absolutely not. The very existence of billionaires represents the failures of economics, politics, and morality. Perfectly said 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dualhunter Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Billionaires and trillionaires are fine as long as it's only in Zimbabwe dollars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Nope, creating massive differences in how people live via an economy pyramid scheme is a recipe for a truly unjust world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 If you made $10k every single day for your entire life, you wouldn't even come close to sniffing $1 billion. In fact it would take you 3-4 lifetimes. The difference between a billion and a million is essentially a billion dollars. I'm not sure what the answer is, but a world where Elon Musk can just play around with billions because he has so many billions that a few billion here or there means nothing to him is not a world I want to live in. Bill Gates could almost single handedly end world hunger if he tried hard enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I don’t have any take on the notion of “should” here. I do wonder whether or not the dream of terrible wealth is a key driver of innovation. I don’t know. Like, I do what I do because I enjoy it and am good at it. I really don’t think about the financial impact of growing my company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 42 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I don’t have any take on the notion of “should” here. I do wonder whether or not the dream of terrible wealth is a key driver of innovation. I don’t know. Like, I do what I do because I enjoy it and am good at it. I really don’t think about the financial impact of growing my company. I think there's this misguided idea that capping wealth means no one will innovate. I don't think that's true at all. People will continue to develop things that give them an edge up. "This innovation will only net me $1 million instead of $10 million, so it's not worth it to do it" is not where peoples' minds will go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 14 hours ago, Fizzzzle said: I think there's this misguided idea that capping wealth means no one will innovate. I don't think that's true at all. People will continue to develop things that give them an edge up. "This innovation will only net me $1 million instead of $10 million, so it's not worth it to do it" is not where peoples' minds will go. If it were just about the founder side of the equation, sure. But the investor class actually does think “millions isn’t enough”, and you would be hard pressed to find many major firms in the last 20 years that didn’t rely on VC money to grow to the size that created billion dollar valuations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 If you’re still a billionaire after having all sources of income above something like $400K taxed at say, 90%+, god bless and keep you. I reserve the right to change my position on this after we see what shakes out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 If you can make billions of dollars while still giving your employees great pay, good benefits, unionization, and without exploiting them, you don't cheat or find loop holes with your taxes, you give generously to charity and other worthy causes, and do generally try to invest your wealth to improve the lives of others and make the world a better place, then sure be a billionaire, but I've yet to really see anyone do that so... The only person I can think of who didn't scam their way to the top would be JK Rowling, who wrote a popular book series, and made billions off it without exploiting anyone, but she's also turned out to be a massive transphobe, so fuck her. Then there's also Gabe Newell, who to my knowledge hasn't been unfair to anyone, and kind of seems to keep to himself, but I bet he could still spend a lot more on things that would help people out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Sure. It’s their money. They made it. Nobody stopping you from making your own billion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, Biggie said: Sure. It’s their money. They made it. Nobody stopping you from making your own billion. They didn’t make it they just set up a way to steal from all the workers who made it. There are absolutely people who try to stop most people from making their own billion lol. Do you even america?! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, stepee said: They didn’t make it they just set up a way to steal from all the workers who made it. There are absolutely people who try to stop most people from making their own billion lol. Do you even america?! You have your opinion, I have mine. Yours just happens to be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, Biggie said: You have your opinion, I have mine. Yours just happens to be wrong. Oh yeah, well let me introduce you to my friends my rubber and mr glue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, Rachel said: *starts a drywall business* just be a stripper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Biggie said: just be a stripper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 trading labour/capital for achievement bux was always a bad idea. I lust say we put a wood chipper at the top of the mountain and not tell anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 10 hours ago, Rachel said: I try to tell him this but he doesn’t listen Don’t underestimate the power of your pussy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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