Россия invades Україна | UPDATE (14 May 2024) - Russia launches new invasion from the north into Kharkiv, soon to launch second corridor into Sumy. Situation is dire

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Slavic bojo 

[CayceG]

I've always felt that the LNR is the 'little brother' to the DNR. That they stuffed that dude in a flak jacket and put him in front of the camera confirms that they are really the runt of the litter. 

 

[Jwheel86]

So if this doesn't kick off tomorrow or Thursday safe to assume he's taken the off ramp?

[Chairslinger]

36 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

That dude looks like he belongs on the Addams family.

 

 

Looks like they shaved the big muppet from Labyrinth and put it in fatigues and a helmut.

 

 

[Air_Delivery]

[Zaku3]

1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

He definitely doesn't look...uhhhhh...natural.

 

The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some would deem unnatural.

[Ominous]

[CitizenVectron]

 

 

[CayceG]

10 hours ago, Jwheel86 said:

So if this doesn't kick off tomorrow or Thursday safe to assume he's taken the off ramp?

 

I think this can drag on a few more days. Off ramp would mean we'd see units pulling back and relocating to their bases inside Russia. They're all still there at/near the border. 

[CitizenVectron]

18 minutes ago, CayceG said:

 

I think this can drag on a few more days. Off ramp would mean we'd see units pulling back and relocating to their bases inside Russia. They're all still there at/near the border. 

 

Yeah, I'd agree. Obviously there is a point where Putin can't maintain 190,000+ troops sitting out in fields, for multiple reasons (morale, money, etc), but I think he probably can get away with a few weeks. While I still think a major offensive is likely, there have been some good analyses around how Putin hasn't gotten the reaction he wanted (a more fractured West), and a full invasion might not be maintainable for Russia. The days of Russia/USSR being able to effectively invade and occupy even all of eastern Europe are long gone, I think. Even maintaining control over all of Ukraine would strain Russia, I believe.

[CayceG]

Right. And that's why I think he might bank on NATO not coming to the defense of Ukraine in an actual invasion scenario. While larger in scale, I think this winds up being a "Georgia Plus" situation. By that I mean an assault to degrade Ukraine's military capabilities through strategic strikes and assaults, an armored push to drive the Ukrainian military out of the Donbas, and the Plus part being an airborne operation backed by another armored push into Kyiv in order to secure regime change and oust Zelensky. 

 

 

All of that sounds like a nightmare for the Russians. May the ghost of Nestor Makhno guide the Ukrainians. 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Having just learned about Nestor Makhno from Revolutions I gotta say I like him.

[CitizenVectron]

7 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Having just learned about Nestor Makhno from Revolutions I gotta say I like him.

 

Damn:

 

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Makhno and the movement's leadership were anarcho-communists and attempted to guide the movement along these ideological lines. Makhno was aggressively opposed to all factions that sought to impose their authority over southern Ukraine, battling in succession the forces of the Ukrainian National Republic, the Central Powers of Germany and Austro-Hungary, the Hetmanate state, the White Army, the Bolshevik Red Army, and other smaller forces led by various Ukrainian atamans. He is also credited as the inventor of the tachanka—a horse-drawn carriage with a mounted heavy machine gun.

 

Nestor Makhno - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

[CitizenVectron]

 

[CitizenVectron]

I expect everyone to be blaring Ukraine's awesome national anthem from their windows tonight:

 

 

It's unfortunate that the two nations with the greatest anthems are going to war.

 

[CayceG]

For more Nestor Makhno info, check out the 2-part Christmas episode on him that Behind the Bastards did. (Christmas is when they do a non-bastard for a change).

 

Part One: Nestor Makhno: Anarchist Warlord and Book Club Aficionado - Behind the Bastards | iHeart

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[CitizenVectron]

 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

What's the weather situation in Ukraine currently?

 

If the ground isn't frozen, that's gonna make Russian armored operations a lot more challening.

[PaladinSolo]

58 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

What's the weather situation in Ukraine currently?

 

If the ground isn't frozen, that's gonna make Russian armored operations a lot more challening.

Looks like about 40 every day with lows just under freezing.

[CayceG]

It might almost be go-time. 

 

 

 

[CayceG]

2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

What's the weather situation in Ukraine currently?

 

If the ground isn't frozen, that's gonna make Russian armored operations a lot more challening.

 

It's mud season:

 

 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

 

[CitizenVectron]

Eastern Europe has such an...ominous colour palette compared to North America. You can't really understand unless you've been there. Everything (and I mean EVERYTHING) is just slightly different. Oh, you think the trees will be green? NO, they are NEAR-green. You think concrete will be grey? NO, it's somehow a little bit off, too. Maybe @CayceG can comment more, but it's like entering an alternate universe where everything is just slightly more drab.

[CitizenVectron]

Russia is using botnets to get pro-Ukrainian people banned from twitter and other social media platforms, just FYI:

 

 

[CitizenVectron]

 

[CitizenVectron]

If Russia pushes straight for Kyiv, they will likely push troops and armour through the Chernobyl Radiation Zone. Just crazy to think about.

[CitizenVectron]

 

[CitizenVectron]

On the one hand, Russia is obviously a very hardened country able to pull off horrible things relative to their economy and population. On the other hand...they also apparently just didn't think Ukraine and the west would be so prepared/united?

 

 

[CayceG]

10 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

Eastern Ukraine has such an...ominous colour palette compared to North America. You can't really understand unless you've been there. Everything (and I mean EVERYTHING) is just slightly different. Oh, you think the trees will be green? NO, they are NEAR-green. You think concrete will be grey? NO, it's somehow a little bit off, too. Maybe @CayceG can comment more, but it's like entering an alternate universe where everything is just slightly more drab.

 

Kinda. Part of it is that everything is sort of gray because it's winter. Part of it's the pollution in the east. I always to go Ukraine in late summer and everything is relatively vibrant. And it's in the west, so there's less industrial haze. 

 

But this photo from my friend from last year really shows the beauty of some areas. This is at a monastery in Svyatogorsk in the Donetsk Oblast. 

 

[CitizenVectron]

Oh it's a beautiful country. And sorry, I meant to say eastern Europe, not Ukraine. It's mostly that the vegetation there is a slightly different hue of green than North America (a few percentage points towards blue and grey). I've only visited the areas in this rough triangle in the western half of the country. I think my favourite places were near Chernivtsi and Lviv (I loved Lviv).

 

[CitizenVectron]

 

[CayceG]

11 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

Oh it's a beautiful country. And sorry, I meant to say eastern Europe, not Ukraine. It's mostly that the vegetation there is a slightly different hue of green than North America (a few percentage points towards blue and grey). I've only visited the areas in this rough triangle in the western half of the country. I think my favourite places were near Chernivtsi and Lviv (I loved Lviv).

 

 

I've generally been even farther west. L'viv, Lutsk, Rivne, Ternopil mainly. 

 

Rivne has a zoo that's pretty funny. They have this one exhibit with a fucking North American raccoon in it.  

Like, dude, that thing lives under my shed. It is not special enough to be in a zoo.

[CitizenVectron]

 

[GeneticBlueprint]

3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

 

This is like the eight tweet like this in this thread.

[CitizenVectron]

 

 

Some thought initially these ships could mean a landing in Odessa, but I think Mariupol is the most likely target.