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Anathema- Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 lol someone's mad that their hypocrisy is showing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Must be hard when your reductive and absolute political headspace is shattered by the very man who inspired it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Also, [italian chef kiss] to trolls complaining about being trolled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Imagine stanning for a politician. Any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 22 hours ago, SilentWorld said: I thought the line was billionaires are bad? Another reason why Americans (and everyone else) should refer to billionaires as oligarchs. It’s really bizarre that this only happens with Russian billionaires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 No thanks tmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 What are chances of some Terry McAuliffe blackface photos surface Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 44 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: What are chances of some Terry McAuliffe blackface photos surface Higher than Bernie's net worth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Anyone taking the fact Bernie has recently become a millionaire as a legitimate criticism of the man vis a vis his indictment of millionaires and billionaires has gone full stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Anyone taking the fact Bernie has recently become a millionaire as a legitimate criticism of the man vis a vis his indictment of millionaires and billionaires has gone full stupid. Brain worms for all! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Anyone taking the fact Bernie has recently become a millionaire as a legitimate criticism of the man vis a vis his indictment of millionaires and billionaires has gone full stupid. I'm not taking it as a legitimate criticism of the man or his indictment of the rich; I'm taking it as a criticism of the obtuse and reductive rhetoric his followers employ. If the dirt bag left is too sensitive to get a taste of their own medicine and needs everyone to 'shut the fuck up', then maybe they should grow the fuck up! Bernie being a millionaire and AOC acquiescing on the tax filing bill are proof-fucking-positive that progressive politics are not absolute affairs, and it is pure joy to see that reality hit the left in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Chris- said: I'm not taking it as a legitimate criticism of the man or his indictment of the rich; I'm taking it as a criticism of the obtuse and reductive rhetoric his followers employ. If the dirt bag left is too sensitive to get a taste of their medicine and need everyone to 'shut the fuck up', then maybe they should grow the fuck up! Bernie being a millionaire and AOC acquiescing on the tax filing bill are proof-fucking-positive that progressive politics are not absolute affairs, and it is pure joy to see that reality hit the left in the face. Oh, I'm with you in full - my post was not directed at you. But I am in complete agreement with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 He’s been earning a congressional salary for decades. Even with cost of a second home in the DC area, that’s still a lot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: He’s been earning a congressional salary for decades. Even with cost of a second home in the DC area, that’s still a lot of money. Wow, it's almost as if 'wealth is bad' is an overly simplistic and reductive polemic. There is hope yet for your ability to see nuance and complexity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I kind of wish Bernie waited to release his taxes. Conservative Democrats could have further developed their conspiracy theories only to be embarrassed again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 The only thing Bernie becoming a millionaire proves is that you can be rich and still put the poor first and millionaires aren't going to like the proles knowing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Who knew a person’s politics could be based on a sense of fairness instead of their personal experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Who knew a person’s politics could be based on a sense of fairness instead of their personal experience Who claimed otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chris- said: Who claimed otherwise? The people on the internets and in news saying that Bernie's arguments now against millionaires and billionaires is inherently hypocritical and disingenuous of him because he himself has recently become a millionaire (but has had money for a long time now too). It's stupid, but the arguments are already being made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Just now, Greatoneshere said: The people on the internets and in news saying that Bernie's arguments now against millionaires and billionaires is inherently hypocritical and disingenuous of him because he himself has recently become a millionaire (but has had money for a long time now too). It's stupid, but the arguments are already being made. Ah cool, nice to see RSF respond to shit that no one in this thread is actually saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chris- said: Ah cool, nice to see RSF respond to shit that no one in this thread is actually saying. Well his shit posting is usually referring back to the most base argument(s) being made in any given context regarding the news. It's why I've said the shit posting is funny but substanceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 30 minutes ago, Chris- said: Wow, it's almost as if 'wealth is bad' is an overly simplistic and reductive polemic. There is hope yet for your ability to see nuance and complexity. When people say “wealth is bad” they’re referring to levels of wealth that the average person would have no capability of earning if they lived 500 years, not an amount of money that secretaries sometimes end up having saved up at the end of their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 FDR was wealthy as hell and also the closest thing we have had to a socialist president in our history, and his legacy remains intact with social security and other similar programs. The personal wealth of a politician is irrelevant unless it was gotten in less than ethical or in an illegal manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: When people say “wealth is bad” they’re referring to levels of wealth that the average person would have no capability of earning if they lived 500 years, not an amount of money that secretaries sometimes end up having saved up at the end of their lives. And that misses the point entirely, because as Bernie's situation shows it isn't the wealth that is bad. Being rich or wealthy (not entirely the same thing) are not moral failings if they are achieved in absence of exploitation, and in a society where people have their basic needs met (whether that is food, health care, labor protections, or otherwise), they are wholly unobjectionable. Polemics like 'wealth is bad' don't capture that nuance, and their obtuseness only pushes away people who would otherwise strongly agree with the underlying policy. It's counter-productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Well yeah when you sum up a political philosophy in three words and then reject any further attempts to clarify that philosophy, what you’re left with generally is something that lacks nuance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 The “purity test” nonsense is the dumbest criticism of Bernie supporters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Like am I missing something here? What I’m reading is Bernie has an estimated net worth of $2 million? The way people are talking it’s as if he’s worth 20 or 200 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: The “purity test” nonsense is the dumbest criticism of Bernie supporters Glacially thick irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 minute ago, SilentWorld said: Like am I missing something here? What I’m reading is Bernie has an estimated net worth of $2 million? The way people are talking it’s as if he’s worth 20 or 200 million. no one actually cares about his wealth. Liberals are pretending his supporters care and are upset that he made money off a book deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: Like am I missing something here? What I’m reading is Bernie has an estimated net worth of $2 million? The way people are talking it’s as if he’s worth 20 or 200 million. Does that matter? I pay a lot of attention to leftist-oriented publications (Splinter, Jacobin, etc.) and organizations (like the local DSA chapter). The rhetoric expressed is always that wealth and capitalism are unequivocally bad; whether you are talking about $2 million, $20 million, or $200 million, that rhetoric is incompatible with the notion that someone can make that much money in one year without any ethical misgivings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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