Jason Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2020/01/09/internal-boeing-documents-show-employees-discussing-efforts-to-manipulate-regulators-scrutinizing-the-737-max/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Quote “I still haven’t been forgiven by God for the covering up I did last year,” one of the employees says in messages from 2018, apparently in reference to interactions with the regulator. Quote “Would you put your family on a Max simulator trained aircraft? I wouldn’t,” one employee said to a colleague in another exchange. “No,” the colleague responded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThreePi Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I trust the Trump FAA to get to the bottom of this. I mean, why else would former Trump UN Ambassador Nikki Haley join the Boeing Board of Directors if not to align the company with federal safety regulations? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Airbus for life, fam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Wow, directly mentioned bribes (brown envelopes) in internal emails. The company should go under for this. This isn't just about money, it involves people's lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Wow, directly mentioned bribes (brown envelopes) in internal emails. The company should go under for this. This isn't just about money, it involves people's lives. I think I can support that. Ignoring concerns from your engineers is bad enough anywhere, but doing so in such a safety critical sector cannot be allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Clearly they know right from wrong, so the logical conclusion is that it's exactly the kind of company we should let regulate themselves. Of course the reality is that Boeing is too big to fail. They're too far integrated into the US government, and they have no real competition in the states. They'll get some slap on the wrist, maybe a few more execs will get pushed out with golden parachutes, and things will continue on as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: The company should go under for this. This isn't just about money, it involves people's lives. Speaking of people's lives: What about the 149,000 other employees that had nothing to do with this and no insight into it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Speaking of people's lives: What about the 149,000 other employees that had nothing to do with this and no insight into it? Alternate plan: Nationalize the company and fire the entire executive and board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Alternate plan: Nationalize the company and fire the entire executive and board. My variation is nationalization and criminal prosecution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, SFLUFAN said: My variation is nationalization and guillotines. ftfy 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 12 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Alternate plan: Nationalize the company and execute the entire executive and board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spawn_of_Apathy Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, thewhyteboar said: He should have a hot rivet fired at him for every dollar of that $62million he keeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 19 hours ago, Jason said: My variation is nationalization and guillotines. 9 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: Alternate plan: Nationalize the company and execute the entire executive and board. 39 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: He should have a hot rivet fired at him for every dollar of that $62million he keeps. Those all work for me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Shut the whole fucking thing down: Boeing Mocked Lion Air Calls for More 737 Max Training Before Crash Quote Boeing employees had expressed alarm among themselves over the possibility that one of the company’s largest customers might require its pilots to undergo costly simulator training before flying the new 737 model, according to internal messages that have been released to the media. Those messages, included in the more than 100 pages of internal Boeing communications that the company provided to lawmakers and the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration and released widely on Thursday, had Lion Air’s name redacted. But the the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee provided excerpts of those messages to Bloomberg News that un-redacted the Indonesian carrier’s name. “Now friggin Lion Air might need a sim to fly the MAX, and maybe because of their own stupidity. I’m scrambling trying to figure out how to unscrew this now! idiots,” one Boeing employee wrote in June 2017 text messages obtained by the company and released by the House committee. In response, a Boeing colleague replied: “WHAT THE F%$&!!!! But their sister airline is already flying it!” That was an apparent reference to Malindo Air, the Malaysian-based carrier that was the first to fly the Max commercially. Doing simulator training would have undercut a critical selling point of the jet: that airlines would be able to allow crews trained on an older 737 version to fly the Max after just a brief computer course. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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