b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 And all that ignores the nature of police--that is state--violence towards the communities they supposedly serve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: And all that ignores the nature of police--that is state--violence towards the communities they supposedly serve Which is part of my reasoning in that gun violence AGAINST police will become more common. And if one is so inclined to believe this, political violence will become an effective tool of wielding political power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 42 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Ahem, Jersey is the Florida of the EAST. Florida of the North is Maine. That’s because of Stephen King stories though. 50 minutes ago, Dodger said: Police violence is a problem, but the majority of gun crime in America is black people killing other black people, and not white people with manifesto's shooting minorities because their country is being invaded just because that was one white guy. 93% of Blacks are killed by....other blacks. Not racist white people. 84% of all white homicide victims, killed by other whites. Most violence is intraracial. Not that racism isn't a problem but racism isn't what fuels most crime. You and many others seeing a problem that just isn't there, at least not nearly on the scale you perceive it to be. Link before I'm bugged about it You know, I was pretty close to saying “wow, Dodger didn’t say the dumbest thing in this thread”, but then you went “hey guyz black on blacks crymez!” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Has The Onion posted a no way to prevent this article update yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LazyPiranha Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Bloodporne said: My boy lives nearby and said the gunfire was fucking crazy, subsided now it seems, full blown long shootout. Hope the toll doesn't turn out to be too high once again, his two cousins are in the Jersey City PD. And once again with this thoughts and prayers horseshit in response goddamn @LazyPiranha hope your friend is good yeah? Physically yeah, haven't had much chance to talk to him in depth to see how he is mentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, CayceG said: Was this a little too spicy? Yeah. But you know what, I don't give a shit anymore. Mass shootings are a thing now. The way our society is structured, and the way our arms industry protects its sales breeds these things. We, as a society, are okay with mass shootings, regardless of the cause or target. End of story. These don't even phase me anymore when they come across the news ticker. It's just another day in America. Because it just will not ever change or get better as long as this current power structure exists. What we need to NOT be okay with is police violence. Police violence happens based on radical left politics growing which threatened the white power structures in business and government. The response to this was the clamp down on gun availability to some people, to militarize police, and to punish some sectors of society with mass incarceration. Police violence flows out of each and every one of these things. It is propped up by being intertwined with the FOP and the gun industry through the NRA. Our cultural fetish with Power through "support our troops" has extended to "back the blue" and "Blue Lives Matter"--all in reaction to our inherent societal racism and the issues that forces in opposition to that racism seek to tackle. The result is an even more militarized police. An even more subdued society. An even more emboldened racist wing of society that is protected by police, the government, corporations, and their little worker bees. The targets of mass violence (muslims, black america, jews, gays, etc) at the hands of racists with guns or the police/organs of State power themselves are not going to be able to reduce the incidence of these events. They just will not. They don't have the political power, and they will not be allowed it by the current power structure. This recent police shooting of the UPS driver and bystander in Miami is one example of when shit goes down. I bet there will come a day when we have our own Beslan crisis. My point with the original post and that I seek to explain with this one is that the targeting of the organs of State power with violence may become a form of political expression that is more often undertaken. Shit is bad in this country and there is no end in sight. I'm not seeking out or encouraging some violent anarchic campaign of terror against the police. I don't want that. But I also don't want what the current iteration of America is. I'm just saying that the worst case is that targeting of cops becomes more common because of how out of whack our society is and because of how fucked our gun laws/culture is. Bro, just say “I said something stupid, my bad” and move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, CayceG said: I'm not seeking out or encouraging some violent anarchic campaign of terror against the police. I don't want that. 5 hours ago, CayceG said: I hope they're targeting cops and I hope they beat the high score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, sblfilms said: Bro, just say “I said something stupid, my bad” and move on It wasn't. And I won't. I don't truly wish harm to people. What I said came out of a place of frustration over all the stuff I put in the lengthy posts. I'm allowed to be hyperbolic, just like we all are. I want people to understand what I'm frustrated with and why and where I see it leading to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 hours ago, LazyPiranha said: Physically yeah, haven't had much chance to talk to him in depth to see how he is mentally. Cheers and hope all is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Jersey City Shooting: Suspect Published Anti-Semitic Posts, Official Says Quote A suspect involved in a prolonged firefight in Jersey City, N.J., that left six people dead, including one police officer, had published anti-Semitic and anti-police posts online and investigators believe the attack was motivated by those sentiments, a law enforcement official familiar with the case said on Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 These terrorists appear to have belonged to the "Black Hebrew Israelite" cult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: These terrorists appear to have belonged to the "Black Hebrew Israelite" cult. I hate to say it, but I'm surprised these nut cases aren't involved in MORE bullshit. So it's not just simple Black on Black crime and is indeed a hate crime? Can we start talking about the proliferation of guns again now because that seems to be the only time it's allowed. Poor Black folks with easier access to guns than health care or decent jobs killing each other has no place in the gun debate THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 These dudes look like a shitty gimmick Hop Hop record from like 1982. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I hate to say it, but I'm surprised these nut cases aren't involved in MORE bullshit. This after googling them. I never paid any attention but I've definitely seen these guys doing their street corner preaching in Manhattan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: This after googling them. I never paid any attention but I've definitely seen these guys doing their street corner preaching in Manhattan I had a run-in with one of them on the subway once... he overheard me and a buddy talking and challenged me on something he thought I said which I actually did not say. It got pretty heated and he came REAL close to getting royally fucked up but he got off the train before shit got too crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: These dudes look like a shitty gimmick Hop Hop record from like 1982. Damn... The guy in the middle looks like my cousin I had to do a double take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 54 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Damn... The guy in the middle looks like my cousin I had to do a double take The guy second from left totally looks like RZA too And that subway story reminds me of that classic video of the old white guy laying down the law on the bus which ended up not being at all what the guy said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 The Black Hebrew thing is one of the more perplexing religious subcultures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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