Mr.Vic20 Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 BREAKING NEWS - ACTIVE SHOOTER IN JERSEY CITY. BOTH SHOOTERS HAVE LONG GUNS. SHOTS BEING FIRED NON-STOP. — Breaking News Feed (@pzf) December 10, 2019 Quote
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Posted December 10, 2019 https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/10/us/jersey-city-new-jersey-shooting/index.html The New Jersey State PBA also tweeted: "We need a lot of prayers right now for Jersey City officers. Keep all those involved in your thoughts." 1 Quote
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Posted December 10, 2019 BREAKING NEWS - ACTIVE SHOOTER IN JERSEY CITY.SHOTS STILL BEING FIRED FROM THE BODEGA TOWARDS THE SCHOOL. THEY CAN SEE A LONG GUN APPEARS TO BE AN AR-15.— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) December 10, 2019 Quote
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Posted December 10, 2019 Gunfire has been reported in a Jersey City neighborhood. There is a massive police presence and video shows a line of police officers armed with weapons pointed in several directions walking down the sidewalk. https://t.co/r7cThyeufi — The Associated Press (@AP) December 10, 2019 Quote
Bacon Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/10/us/jersey-city-new-jersey-shooting/index.html The New Jersey State PBA also tweeted: "We need a lot of prayers right now for Jersey City officers. Keep all those involved in your thoughts." Oh boy 1 Quote
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Saudis? Its Jeresy, it could be a pair of fully aware upright Kodiak bears. Anything goes in the Florida of the north. Quote
Dodger Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Its Jeresy, it could be a pair of fully aware upright Kodiak bears. Anything goes in the Florida of the north. We can at least rule out Koala's after recently learning they are really fucking lazy. Quote
CayceG Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 I hope they're targeting cops and I hope they beat the high score. 1 4 Quote
Chris- Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, CayceG said: I hope they're targeting cops and I hope they beat the high score. Bro... Quote
Joe Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, CayceG said: I hope they're targeting cops and I hope they beat the high score. Jersey City has one of the most diverse and progressive police forces in the nation, you stupid fucking twat. 1 Quote
LazyPiranha Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 A friend of mine is a jersey city cop, got in touch to confirm he is OK. Crazy stuff. Quote
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Posted December 10, 2019 BREKAING NEWS - JERSEY CITY ACTIVE SHOOTER: POLICE REPORTING MULTIPLE PEOPLE DEAD INSIDE THE STORE. — Breaking News Feed (@pzf) December 10, 2019 Quote
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 So the question becomes whose bullets killed those inside the store. Quote
Bloodporne Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 My boy lives nearby and said the gunfire was fucking crazy, subsided now it seems, full blown long shootout. Hope the toll doesn't turn out to be too high once again, his two cousins are in the Jersey City PD. And once again with this thoughts and prayers horseshit in response goddamn @LazyPiranha hope your friend is good yeah? Quote
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Posted December 10, 2019 JERSEY CITY MASS SHOOTING WAS A RESULT OF A DRUG DEAL GONE WRONG. NO INDICATION OF HATE CRIME. — Breaking News Feed (@pzf) December 10, 2019 Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, CayceG said: I hope they're targeting cops and I hope they beat the high score. Yeah this is fucked up statement. I have family that are cops in Jersey. EDIT: I just got in touch with a friend of mine who lives there. She's cool but her daughters are in school on lock down. Quote
Brick Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, CayceG said: I hope they're targeting cops and I hope they beat the high score. Dude, even if this is a joke, it's pretty tasteless and insensitive. 1 Quote
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Posted December 10, 2019 JERSEY CITY MASS SHOOTING: 6 CONFIRMED DEAD - 3 civilians - 2 Suspects - 1 police officer — Breaking News Feed (@pzf) December 10, 2019 Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: "Well then it's just criminals doing the mass shooting. No need for gun control then" Fox News, Probably 2 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Its Jeresy, it could be a pair of fully aware upright Kodiak bears. Anything goes in the Florida of the north. When did Jersey get labeled with THIS reputation? I missed that memo Quote
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: "Well then it's just criminals doing the mass shooting. No need for gun control then" Fox News, Probably When did Jersey get labeled with THIS reputation? I missed that memo Jersey is just a crazy diverse state! So much weird shit, and good shit, happens in Jersey! Its a country unto itself. My 1st and 4th wives are from there. Florida is also quite weird, though not quite as diverse. 1 Quote
Guest Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr.Vic20 said: My 1st and 4th wives Quote
Joe Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: "Well then it's just criminals doing the mass shooting. No need for gun control then" Fox News, Probably When did Jersey get labeled with THIS reputation? I missed that memo Jersey has been unfairly shit on for ages. It used to be because a small part of the Turnpike smells. Now it's because a bunch of guidos have an MTV show. 1 Quote
CayceG Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, CayceG said: I hope they're targeting cops and I hope they beat the high score. Was this a little too spicy? Yeah. But you know what, I don't give a shit anymore. Mass shootings are a thing now. The way our society is structured, and the way our arms industry protects its sales breeds these things. We, as a society, are okay with mass shootings, regardless of the cause or target. End of story. These don't even phase me anymore when they come across the news ticker. It's just another day in America. Because it just will not ever change or get better as long as this current power structure exists. What we need to NOT be okay with is police violence. Police violence happens based on radical left politics growing which threatened the white power structures in business and government. The response to this was the clamp down on gun availability to some people, to militarize police, and to punish some sectors of society with mass incarceration. Police violence flows out of each and every one of these things. It is propped up by being intertwined with the FOP and the gun industry through the NRA. Our cultural fetish with Power through "support our troops" has extended to "back the blue" and "Blue Lives Matter"--all in reaction to our inherent societal racism and the issues that forces in opposition to that racism seek to tackle. The result is an even more militarized police. An even more subdued society. An even more emboldened racist wing of society that is protected by police, the government, corporations, and their little worker bees. The targets of mass violence (muslims, black america, jews, gays, etc) at the hands of racists with guns or the police/organs of State power themselves are not going to be able to reduce the incidence of these events. They just will not. They don't have the political power, and they will not be allowed it by the current power structure. This recent police shooting of the UPS driver and bystander in Miami is one example of when shit goes down. I bet there will come a day when we have our own Beslan crisis. My point with the original post and that I seek to explain with this one is that the targeting of the organs of State power with violence may become a form of political expression that is more often undertaken. Shit is bad in this country and there is no end in sight. I'm not seeking out or encouraging some violent anarchic campaign of terror against the police. I don't want that. But I also don't want what the current iteration of America is. I'm just saying that the worst case is that targeting of cops becomes more common because of how out of whack our society is and because of how fucked our gun laws/culture is. Quote
Dodger Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, CayceG said: Was this a little too spicy? Yeah. But you know what, I don't give a shit anymore. Mass shootings are a thing now. The way our society is structured, and the way our arms industry protects its sales breeds these things. We, as a society, are okay with mass shootings, regardless of the cause or target. End of story. These don't even phase me anymore when they come across the news ticker. It's just another day in America. Because it just will not ever change or get better as long as this current power structure exists. What we need to NOT be okay with is police violence. Police violence happens based on radical left politics growing which threatened the white power structures in business and government. The response to this was the clamp down on gun availability to some people, to militarize police, and to punish some sectors of society with mass incarceration. Police violence flows out of each and every one of these things. It is propped up by being intertwined with the FOP and the gun industry through the NRA. Our cultural fetish with Power through "support our troops" has extended to "back the blue" and "Blue Lives Matter"--all in reaction to our inherent societal racism and the issues that forces in opposition to that racism seek to tackle. The result is an even more militarized police. An even more subdued society. An even more emboldened racist wing of society that is protected by police, the government, corporations, and their little worker bees. The targets of mass violence (muslims, black america, jews, gays, etc) at the hands of racists with guns or the police/organs of State power themselves are not going to be able to reduce the incidence of these events. They just will not. They don't have the political power, and they will not be allowed it by the current power structure. This recent police shooting of the UPS driver and bystander in Miami is one example of when shit goes down. I bet there will come a day when we have our own Beslan crisis. My point with the original post and that I seek to explain with this one is that the targeting of the organs of State power with violence may become a form of political expression that is more often undertaken. Shit is bad in this country and there is no end in sight. I'm not seeking out or encouraging some violent anarchic campaign of terror against the police. I don't want that. But I also don't want what the current iteration of America is. I'm just saying that the worst case is that targeting of cops becomes more common because of how out of whack our society is and because of how fucked our gun laws/culture is. Police violence is a problem, but the majority of gun crime in America is black people killing other black people, and not white people with manifesto's shooting minorities because their country is being invaded just because that was one white guy. 93% of Blacks are killed by....other blacks. Not racist white people. 84% of all white homicide victims, killed by other whites. Most violence is intraracial. Not that racism isn't a problem but racism isn't what fuels most crime. You and many others seeing a problem that just isn't there, at least not nearly on the scale you perceive it to be. Link before I'm bugged about it Quote
Anathema- Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Its Jeresy, it could be a pair of fully aware upright Kodiak bears. Anything goes in the Florida of the north. Ahem, Jersey is the Florida of the EAST. Florida of the North is Maine. 1 Quote
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 Black on black crime is the center space on racism bingo 1 Quote
CayceG Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 I'm not getting into a discussion about this, so this is all I'll say. That black on black shootings are happening at such a great rate is a confluence of racial discrimination, economic loss and depression, and availability of guns. People without safety nets, or safety nets with massive holes turn to other illicit methods to make it economically. In urban centers with high population density, that means the population taking part in that is disproportionately black. This same thing happens in other parts of the country (read: more rural parts) for the same reasons, it's just that those that partake in the violence have a different skin color. Meth deal shootouts in the hills of Tennessee are the same as dope deals in East St. Louis--tragedies that result from The Way Things Are. You can't unring the bell, but without the production rates of guns in this country being what it is, we don't have a gun violence problem. We have a gun violence problem because we have a gun availability problem. And back to my original point, I'm not bemoaning the existence of gun violence in itself. We're built on the gun. We worship Zardoz. What I mean is that mass shootings are a side effect of the availability of guns and the tensions in this country, just like black on black crime is. And where I was going with my original Hot Take is that guns being used against police will become more commonplace. Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 54 minutes ago, Jose said: Jersey has been unfairly shit on for ages. It used to be because a small part of the Turnpike smells. Now it's because a bunch of guidos have an MTV show. And they're mostly from the Islands, Staten and Long My stance with the whole "shit on Jersey thing" has been if you're not from NY or another major city, you can kindly shut the fuck up. I grew up in Jersey and will proudly rep it till I die . Quote
Dodger Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Black on black crime is the center space on racism bingo Except statistics show that white people also mostly kill other white people. Quote
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, CayceG said: We have a gun violence problem because we have a gun availability problem This is the symptom of the larger problems that you have addressed in part Quote
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Dodger said: Except statistics show that white people also mostly kill other white people. Which is why specifically calling out black on black crime is the center space. In most cases people kill others who share geographic proximity, and since our history of settlement in this country is largely based on race and socioeconomic status, this means that most crime is intraracial by default. 1 Quote
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