CitizenVectron Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 https://news.yahoo.com/impeachment-trumps-son-tweets-name-alleged-whistleblower-154514305.html Quote Washington (AFP) - President Donald Trump's son published on Wednesday the name of the alleged anonymous whistleblower whose complaint fired the impeachment inquiry against Trump, breaking strict conventions for protecting officials who reveal wrongdoing in government. Strict conventions? Is there no law? Quote AFP could not independently verify the whistleblower's identity and is not publishing the name. But the revelation by the president's son comes as the White House seeks to discredit the mounting impeachment effort in Congress against Trump, painting it as driven by politics. "There is no Whistleblower. There is someone with an agenda against Donald Trump," the president tweeted on Monday. Standing beside Trump at a political rally in Kentucky Monday, Republican Senator Rand Paul threatened to expose the person and demanded they testify in Congress. "We also now know the name of the whistleblower... I say tonight to the media, do your job and print his name." Andrew Bakaj, the whistleblower's lawyer, would not confirm or deny the reported name, but said Trump Jr. and others were endangering the person as well as the system built to protect whistleblowers. "Identifying any name for the whistleblower will simply place that individual and their family at risk," he told AFP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I don’t know what law Don Jr. could be held to in regards to unmasking a whistleblower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 How does someone not in government know the whistleblower? Fredo may not have broken the law here but I can't imagine that the person who told him wasn't breaking a law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jason said: How does someone not in government know the whistleblower? Fredo may not have broken the law here but I can't imagine that the person who told him wasn't breaking a law. The name he tweeted out was apparently put out by some conservative rag last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I fucking hate to say it but Fredo does have a point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Just now, sblfilms said: The name he tweeted out was apparently put out by some conservative rag last week. Well, replace "whoever told Fredo" with "whoever the ultimate source for this information is". Someone had to be breaking the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Well, replace "whoever told Fredo" with "whoever the ultimate source for this information is". Someone had to be breaking the law. The article that originally put the name out surmised the identity based on other information that was made available. It certainly could be true that the name was illegally divulged, but the information that was already out there didn’t seem to be enough to break any unmasking laws but was also specific enough to narrow down the potential people to a very short list. Still, poor form for people to be spreading the name around whether he is the guy or not, or whether it is legal/illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, sblfilms said: The article that originally put the name out surmised the identity based on other information that was made available. It certainly could be true that the name was illegally divulged, but the information that was already out there didn’t seem to be enough to break any unmasking laws but was also specific enough to narrow down the potential people to a very short list. Still, poor form for people to be spreading the name around whether he is the guy or not, or whether it is legal/illegal. The mainstream press was definitely irresponsible in providing enough information to start zeroing in on who the whistleblower is but we know the House Republicans have been trying to get the whistleblower's name onto the record in the closed hearings. My bet would be on one of them giving the name to a right-wing rag to give cover to everyone else publicly naming him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I'm calling it now: Trump is going to have this person be shot in the middle of Times Square. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Just now, marioandsonic said: I'm calling it now: Trump is going to have this person be shot in the middle of Times Square. Second term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Chairslinger said: Second term. 5th term GEOTUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 These are good points, he is only repeating an allegation that is already in the press. However... If Paul did this (and knew the actual name of the whistleblower through access in government) then would this not violate some law? It would not be speculation in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason said: How does someone not in government know the whistleblower? Fredo may not have broken the law here but I can't imagine that the person who told him wasn't breaking a law. Breitbart and The Federalist have been tweeting about him for over a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Iirc whistleblower protections are only professional and job related protections, and don't necessarily prevent a legislator from outing them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Iirc whistleblower protections are only professional and job related protections, and don't necessarily prevent a legislator from outing them I think this is correct. Not being an awful person is the only thing stopping a legislator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: I'm calling it now: Trump is going to have this person be shot in the middle of Times Square. Times Square to be renamed Trump Square to celebrate the execution of the deep state apparatus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thewhyteboar Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Fuck this family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Because knowing his name means the transcript, the texts, Trump's on-camera calls to foreign nations, and the numerous testimonies are all rendered invalid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Fuck this family. They're too busy fucking each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 22 hours ago, Jason said: They're too busy fucking each other. And us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 23 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: Fuck this family. What I like about this is I wasn’t sure if you were talking about the Trumps or the Pauls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, sblfilms said: What I like about this is I wasn’t sure if you were talking about the Trumps or the Pauls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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