General Gaming Elden Ring - Information Thread, update (05/21): Shadow of the Erdtree "Story Trailer"

[BloodyHell]

4 hours ago, stepee said:

holy shit I finally got to my third great rune fight

  Hide contents

radahn

and beat it without coop and on like my 6th try, didn’t expect that, just assumed I would use coop when I got here, glad I tried by myself. Love my grafted greatsword, he couldn’t stand the thing.

 

He's easier with no pc summons, because you can't use your horse if you summon other players.

4 hours ago, best3444 said:

 

Damn. I heard he is one of the more difficult bosses in the game. I only attempted him 2 times but I was way under leveled. That's impressive. 

You were never underleveled, weren't you like 70+? 

You just didn't learn the fight. Though apparently it did get a big nerf. 

[BloodyHell]

2 hours ago, Bloodporne said:

Speaking of Redmane Castle. I forgot to go back through it after beating Radahn but do all those locked doors ever unlock somehow? First time through, every door seemed to be locked and barely any part accessible.

Was it you who said you used Rotten Breath? It went well? I remember the post but can't find it.

 

I so wish I had found that trick before I foughthim. But I don't have the points in faith anyway. I have 15 int for radahn's blades, and my 3 main weapons are Bloodhound Fang +9, starscourge Greatsword +9, and Greatsword +24. Also Starcaller Bow +8 for hard to reach enemies. 

 

Getting the smithing stone and somber smithing stone bell bearings is an absolute must for leveling weapons. I have the first 3 of each version now, as well as two glovewort/ghostwort bell bearings. Lets you keep everything high level. I've spent hundreds of thousands of souls upgrading weapons.

 

 

[TheLeon]

I ended up respecing from my pure melee/str build to branch out into some magic, partially to rotten breath Radhan. I like having the flexibility of magic, but I still mostly prefer running up and bashing dudes with a big sword when I can. 

[BloodyHell]

Godskin Duo down... what a ridiculous fight that I honestly don't think I could have beaten without my jellyfish (im trying to beat thw game without mimic) at level 10. It does almost no damage, but it keeps one noble busy. I tried about 15 times solo before I brought her out. Took me 3 more tries with jellyfish.

 

I destroyed the Noble only healing once. I quickly went all out offensive on the skinny one, got them down to 1/3 before he summoned another noble. I finished it off while jelly died to fatso, and completely decimated him because the hp bar is set to end the fight after so much damage. Was 3 or 4 hits on the second noble that was summoned.

 

Felt good. Now theres only Malenia left to stress about.

 

I killed 

Spoiler

Morgott

Earlier today. 

As well as the huge Black Blade Kindered outside of Beastial Sactum. 

 

The dragonbarrow erdtree guardian kicked my ass a bunch. It's definitely the fastest erdtree guardian of all so far, and he's tough as nails. Ill get back to him later. 

 

Now I have Smithing Stone Bell Bearing 4 I can get all of my regular weapons and shields up to level 24, and there are a ton of them. 

 

Oh and I finally found Ainsel River and killed 

Spoiler

Dragonkin Soldier of Noksella.

 

 

I had been to the other part after four armed waifu' quest, but its unreachable from the greater Ainsel River, which is accessible by a siofra like gate that I somehow messed. I was kind of disappointed at how easy he was. Ive been almost deliberately not leveling anymore, only allowing it when I beat a shardbearer or major boss that gives me enough runes. I was lvl 108, Then one gave me 500k runes, which was 6 more levels. If you're like me and do a ton of exploring, everywhere, you end up overleveled for most of later part of the mid game.

 

The shardbearers besides Radahn were mostly good fights, but not challenging, honestly. Rykard was incredibly easy once you get the tempo down, and of course the sword isn't half as cool after the battle.  Im looking forward to Malenia, a certain commander that is up next, and I really hope the final bosses are a challenge, I know nothing of them.  Oh, and Placidux. 

[BloodyHell]

38 minutes ago, TheLeon said:

I ended up respecing from my pure melee/str build to branch out into some magic, partially to rotten breath Radhan. I like having the flexibility of magic, but I still mostly prefer running up and bashing dudes with a big sword when I can. 

Its funny, I have 15 points in int, I considered adding more. I have sn s scaling magic staff, lol.I thought of putting more into Int, but then I realized i'd need to waste points on mind too. 

 

Im gonna beat it straight strength, and then for my PC/Steamdeck playthrough I'll do faith/Dex, with a dual katana heavy bleed/heavy poison build with dragon magic and healing.  I already have a second mage on ps5, but its like level 45 with 2 shards.

[Bloodporne]

51 minutes ago, BloodyHell said:

Was it you who said you used Rotten Breath? It went well? I remember the post but can't find it.

 

I so wish I had found that trick before I foughthim. But I don't have the points in faith anyway. I have 15 int for radahn's blades, and my 3 main weapons are Bloodhound Fang +9, starscourge Greatsword +9, and Greatsword +24. Also Starcaller Bow +8 for hard to reach enemies. 

 

Getting the smithing stone and somber smithing stone bell bearings is an absolute must for leveling weapons. I have the first 3 of each version now, as well as two glovewort/ghostwort bell bearings. Lets you keep everything high level. I've spent hundreds of thousands of souls upgrading weapons.

 

 

Nah I don't have that one but it was recommended to me. I didn't realize you could keep summoning the NPC bros so I kept trying to 'save them' for later, making the fight way harder for myself. Once I summoned them willy nilly, I beat him rather quickly because they took the meteor OHKO for me 😎

[BloodyHell]

41 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

Nah I don't have that one but it was recommended to me. I didn't realize you could keep summoning the NPC bros so I kept trying to 'save them' for later, making the fight way harder for myself. Once I summoned them willy nilly, I beat him rather quickly because they took the meteor OHKO for me 😎

Ya, they definitely change the fight, as long as you don't have a weird run where you can't find the summon signs, which happened to me twice.

[Dodger]

Just beat Radahn or whatever his name is on my first try. My pro strat is to be too dumb to figure out how to get in the castle and finally look it up on YouTube when you’re level 100 with 50 vigor so you can face tank 3 hits without dying.

[BloodyHell]

7 hours ago, Dodger said:

Just beat Radahn or whatever his name is on my first try. My pro strat is to be too dumb to figure out how to get in the castle and finally look it up on YouTube when you’re level 100 with 50 vigor so you can face tank 3 hits without dying.

Lol

I finally got my vigor up to 30. I put all my points in str/dex, with 6 points in int, and my endurance is like 35 or so, so I can wear heavy armor with Radahn's swords  because thst thing is like 20lbs. 

 

But vigor is definitely my next stat to focus on. I want to get it to at least 40. 

 

Who knows what level ill stop at. I have absolutely zero interest in PVP, so I definitely am not worried about staying around lvl 150. 

[Bloodporne]

29 minutes ago, BloodyHell said:

Lol

I finally got my vigor up to 30. I put all my points in str/dex, with 6 points in int, and my endurance is like 35 or so, so I can wear heavy armor with Radahn's swords  because thst thing is like 20lbs. 

 

But vigor is definitely my next stat to focus on. I want to get it to at least 40. 

 

Who knows what level ill stop at. I have absolutely zero interest in PVP, so I definitely am not worried about staying around lvl 150. 

I've pumped 40 into Vigor so far, the rest into Dex and Int mainly. I think I'm around level 95?

[Mercury33]

Any reviews of Remembrance weapons? I feel like I mostly see people using leveled up regular weapons or named weapons from chests through the whole game. But is anyone using any of the boss weapons that they really like?

[Keyser_Soze]

Anyone use the Page spirit ashes? I gave it a go and sorta kind of like it because the guy is nimble and tries to avoid attacks. Not sure I want to spend any time leveling it up though because it is kind of squishy when it gets hit. I usually stick to my Ancestral Follower ashes since he's can dish and take a lot.

[Bloodporne]

18 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said:

Anyone use the Page spirit ashes? I gave it a go and sorta kind of like it because the guy is nimble and tries to avoid attacks. Not sure I want to spend any time leveling it up though because it is kind of squishy when it gets hit. I usually stick to my Ancestral Follower ashes since he's can dish and take a lot.

I haven't yet but plan on checking that one out considering those guys are total assholes as enemies. 

[Best]

I need a sombering smithing stone 9. I googled it and I didn't get easy location to find one. I start replaying this game tomorrow. 

[BloodyHell]

1 hour ago, Mercury33 said:

Any reviews of Remembrance weapons? I feel like I mostly see people using leveled up regular weapons or named weapons from chests through the whole game. But is anyone using any of the boss weapons that they really like?

I love Radahn's sword, and his bow, but they are the only rememberance weapons I actually use on the regular. 

But I definitely use other unique weapons. I find myself using Bloodhound Fang a bit less now, but im definitely still using it when bloodloss buildup is viable. 

But regular weapons have the benefit of using grease too, so you can use whatever type of buildup damage is convenient to you. Most unique weapons cannot have grease applied to them. Guts Greatsword against a humanoid, with fire or blood grease applied does an incredible job. 

 

I like throwing an oil pot at a humanoid enemy, then hitting him with flame attacks.

[Bloodporne]

24 minutes ago, BloodyHell said:

I love Radahn's sword, and his bow, but they are the only rememberance weapons I actually use on the regular. 

But I definitely use other unique weapons. I find myself using Bloodhound Fang a bit less now, but im definitely still using it when bloodloss buildup is viable. 

But regular weapons have the benefit of using grease too, so you can use whatever type of buildup damage is convenient to you. Most unique weapons cannot have grease applied to them. Guts Greatsword against a humanoid, with fire or blood grease applied does an incredible job. 

 

I like throwing an oil pot at a humanoid enemy, then hitting him with flame attacks.

Does the oil pot last only for one flame attack subsequently or does it stick for a bit? I have yet to really mess with pots because frankly I don't see the point going for those cumbersome throws when I could just hit em with an attack. 

[Bloodporne]

9 minutes ago, Dimden said:

 

@Bloodporne, most of the decent pots require FP to throw and without the use of a specific talisman (or heavy investment in dexterity), don't do enough damage to justify the costs. Oil pots are probably the most useful though, especially when paired with fire grease or a fire based ash of war/incantation/spell. I barely touched them, honestly, throwing knives are vastly more useful.

I've finished quite a few bosses with Kukris actually. Just a couple tosses at the end when you wanna be absolutely sure and keep your distance. They work really well. 

 

The pots though, yeah, I've tried experimenting with poison etc. and I don't see the point if they don't instantly poison enemies anyway.

[Bloodporne]

4 minutes ago, Dimden said:

 

 

Cross Naginata is really good for inflicting both bleed and poison with an Ash of War like Rapid Strikes or Double Slash, gives you good range and you can poke from behind a shield if that's your style. Pair it up with the Spear Talisman, Lord of Blood's Exultation Talisman and Rotted Winged Insignia Sword to greatly boost your damage. Like, so good, you can get it at the start of the game and rock it all the way to game completion.

I wasn't a fan of that type of weapons so I stashed it but might have to give it a try since it has good Dex scaling. I'm getting annoyed with the same old two/three weapons.

[BloodyHell]

50 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

Does the oil pot last only for one flame attack subsequently or does it stick for a bit? I have yet to really mess with pots because frankly I don't see the point going for those cumbersome throws when I could just hit em with an attack. 

Its an over time effect 

[Keyser_Soze]

1 hour ago, Bloodporne said:

Does the oil pot last only for one flame attack subsequently or does it stick for a bit? I have yet to really mess with pots because frankly I don't see the point going for those cumbersome throws when I could just hit em with an attack. 

 

I only threw oil once and I screwed up because I hadn't crafted any flame pots but you can see the oil dripping off the dude. But I can't answer your question like I said I screwed up. I fucked up ok! Is that what you wanted to hear god damn it!??!

[Bloodporne]

Just now, Keyser_Soze said:

 

I only threw oil once and I screwed up because I hadn't crafted any flame pots but you can see the oil dripping off the dude. But I can't answer your question like I said I screwed up. I fucked up ok! Is that what you wanted to hear god damn it!??!

 

[Kal-El814]

I’m 33ish hours in, level 65, and most of my armor kit is still stuff I’d found within the first  few hours. Am I missing better stuff?

[osxmatt]

I just got to the first boss Margit faster than I was expecting. I'm only level 20 doing a strength/dex build and got knocked around pretty good. Just curious what level everyone was when they beat?

 

Also seems like the Gatefront Ruins in front the of the castle entrance is a pretty decent place to farm for the time being?

[Kal-El814]

2 minutes ago, Dimden said:

You've barely scratched the surface. Don't worry too much about it, soon the game is going to start throwing gear at you.

 

I’ve found a decent amount of armor, it’s just generally not as good as the kit of the soldiers from the first areas of the game. I think I did most of the initial starting area, haven’t fucked with Stormveil Castle at all, but I think I’ve cleared out 75% of Caelid?

[thedarkstark]

Level 79, 50 hours in. Game too good.

 

My one complaint about fromsoft games too much missable stuff. I love the interwoven quests and how their outcomes effect one another but I really dont want to play the game 6 times to get everything

[BloodyHell]

43 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

I’m 33ish hours in, level 65, and most of my armor kit is still stuff I’d found within the first  few hours. Am I missing better stuff?

The first upgrade are the knights in stormvale, if you're running a strength build. Im using General Radahns armor right now. But yes, I went quite a while without an upgrade. I couldn't use the Banished knight armor because of encumbrance. My first true upgrade was Royal Remains set and Twinned Armor.

 

[Kal-El814]

11 minutes ago, thedarkstark said:

Level 79, 50 hours in. Game too good.

 

My one complaint about fromsoft games too much missable stuff. I love the interwoven quests and how their outcomes effect one another but I really dont want to play the game 6 times to get everything

 

The quest design in From games is usually bad-to-okay, but I find it to be one of the few things that got worse in the more open world. I’ve had quests where someone wanted an item that I already had, they didn’t acknowledge it, at some point I returned, they cared then, and then it seemed like the quest skipped a few steps? Another time I ran into a new NPC and I had an option to talk to them about something that I had no reason to believe that character would care about. Looking at the wiki for these quests, what happened to me isn’t reflected in the quest walkthroughs at all in these and other cases.

 

Again I can’t tell if the quests are jacked, the wiki just isn’t up to date, some combo of both? Or maybe I’m doing the game wildly out of order and I have no idea because that’s not really communicated to the player at all?

[BloodyHell]

I was just looking at trophy numbers on psn. 

 

33% of playstation owners have beaten Mimic Tear.

38.4 beat Radahn 

45.3 beat Royal Night Loretta 

28% Dragonkin Soldier of Nokstella. 

28% Morgott

21.7% beat Rykard.

 

Those are crazy numbers.

 

 

[stepee]

5 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

Again I can’t tell if the quests are jacked, the wiki just isn’t up to date, some combo of both? Or maybe I’m doing the game wildly out of order and I have no idea because that’s not really communicated to the player at all?

yes

[Keyser_Soze]

4 minutes ago, BloodyHell said:

I was just looking at trophy numbers on psn. 

 

33% of playstation owners have beaten Mimic Tear.

38.4 beat Radahn 

45.3 beat Royal Night Loretta 

28% Dragonkin Soldier of Nokstella. 

28% Morgott

21.7% beat Rykard.

 

Those are crazy numbers.

 

Those percentages are higher on steam. Liike Radahan 43%, Mimic Tear 38% and so on.

[stepee]

16 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

 

The quest design in From games is usually bad-to-okay, but I find it to be one of the few things that got worse in the more open world. I’ve had quests where someone wanted an item that I already had, they didn’t acknowledge it, at some point I returned, they cared then, and then it seemed like the quest skipped a few steps? Another time I ran into a new NPC and I had an option to talk to them about something that I had no reason to believe that character would care about. Looking at the wiki for these quests, what happened to me isn’t reflected in the quest walkthroughs at all in these and other cases.

 

Again I can’t tell if the quests are jacked, the wiki just isn’t up to date, some combo of both? Or maybe I’m doing the game wildly out of order and I have no idea because that’s not really communicated to the player at all?

 

For real though yeah it sounds like you are a bit out of order. What I would consider like the first main area it sounds like you haven’t gone to yet and are in an area I didn’t go to until much later.

[Kal-El814]

Just now, stepee said:

For real though yeah it sounds like you are a bit out of order. What I would consider like the first main area it sounds like you haven’t gone to yet and are in an area I didn’t go to until much later.

 

OLO

[stepee]

4 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

 

OLO

 

The good news is you are going to slaughter some shit when you head back the other way being level 65 already lol

[Kal-El814]

1 minute ago, stepee said:

 

The good news is you are going to slaughter some shit when you head back the other way being level 65 already lol

 

I was wondering why I was struggling to fight, “dickhead lion guy with Guts’ sword that I already killed somewhere else who then has a knight that turns into an angel show up,” followed by, “some creep who turns into Stretch Armstrong at half health inside a tower I cliffhorse’d up then had to carefully fall to the bottom of the inside of.”

 

But you know, the game warped me there from a quest I got 6 hours into the affair, how the fuck was I supposed to know that was a warp pipe to level 6 from level 1?

[stepee]

6 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

 

I was wondering why I was struggling to fight, “dickhead lion guy with Guts’ sword that I already killed somewhere else who then has a knight that turns into an angel show up,” followed by, “some creep who turns into Stretch Armstrong at half health inside a tower I cliffhorse’d up then had to carefully fall to the bottom of the inside of.”

 

But you know, the game warped me there from a quest I got 6 hours into the affair, how the fuck was I supposed to know that was a warp pipe to level 6 from level 1?

 

Yeah it’s obtuse af, definitely not sure if I’m on the right path still, but I think I’m generally in the right direction. What would have made me second guess where I was is being level 65 and I’m assuming you haven’t beat one of the main great rune bosses and gotten a great rune yet, and at least from my understanding that is the main point is to collect the 6 of them and become elden lord or whatever. Probably why you are so high level for hours played too, you are picking up hundreds-1k for enemy’s at a time when that really boosts you.