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Dems are the only ones trying to be "bipartisan." And this goes against what Obama has said repeatedly about how Democrats are the "party of reality." 

 

Most meaningful legislation this country has passed has not been bipartisan. The 14th and 15th amendments were not bipartisan in the least. Only women's suffrage and the 1964 civil rights act could really be called bipartisan. This idea that we can't pass anything unless everyone agrees to it is ridiculous. Especially when the Republicans have repeatedly proven that they have no interest in passing anything for the next year and a half.

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Dems are the only ones trying to be "bipartisan." And this goes against what Obama has said repeatedly about how Democrats are the "party of reality." 

 

Most meaningful legislation this country has passed has not been bipartisan. The 14th and 15th amendments were not bipartisan in the least. Only women's suffrage and the 1964 civil rights act could really be called bipartisan. This idea that we can't pass anything unless everyone agrees to it is ridiculous. Especially when the Republicans have repeatedly proven that they have no interest in passing anything for the next year and a half.

 

And really, we need to examine how "bipartisan" civil rights was.

 

Super conservative members of Congress voted against it in a bloc. Alabama Democrats voted the same way Alabama Republicans did. It was "bipartisan' only because there were a bunch of liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats that voted with the other party.

 

The parties are no longer like that; the idea that a bill could achieve that level of "bipartisanship" is unrealistic because they'd have to be completely different parties, with a bunch of conservative Democrats and a bunch of liberal Republicans. And at that point, it's no more "bipartisan" than now; people would just be wearing different hats.

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*sigh* I'm getting into the habit of not expecting any substantive update when Jason's the most recent post and instead expecting tweets designed to piss people off from people I never heard of, usually responding to things that aren't said on this board (in this case, whoever DCites are without any list of examples), and containing information that I've never heard of.

 

Warnock and Manchin are working on this shit and met with the Senate Majority Leader; why are we trying to get everyone angry about the idea that Warnock is not listened to when he's working with the person who apparently is listened to who are both reporting to the guy in charge of the caucus? 

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The For the People Act passed by the U.S. House in March, filibustered in the Senate in June, contains over a hundred pages of ethics legislation, along with changes to campaign finance laws and election access. All of the government ethics provisions have now been stripped out of the Senate Democrats’ compromise version, the Freedom […]
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Many of the excised ethics rules would have covered the executive branch and were designed to protect against the Trump administration’s corruption: for example, ending the ability for presidents to spend federal funds at businesses they own. They also would have cracked down on outsized corporate and special interest donations to inaugural committees, slowed the revolving door between government and lobbying, and required presidents and vice presidents to divest from investments posing conflicts of interests, among other things.

 

Other ethics reforms that Manchin snuffed out would have targeted Congress: banning U.S. representatives from serving on private company boards, and barring representatives and senators from working on legislation with the primary purpose of furthering their own financial interests.

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Manchin’s pared-back bill drops the restructuring of the Federal Election Commission, such as shifting the number of commissioners from six, with three appointed by each party, to five, with two appointed by each party and one independent. In discarding reforms that would break the gridlock that has resulted in the agency closing a record low number of enforcement cases, Manchin is also helping to ensure that outside spending in elections will receive less scrutiny. In his 2018 reelection race for the Senate, Manchin benefited from over $18.6 million in outside spending, according to OpenSecrets, including nearly $2.5 million from the “dark money” group Majority Forward that is affiliated with the Senate Majority PAC operated by Senate Democratic leadership. Manchin is a former West Virignia state chair of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), the right-wing network of state lawmakers and corporate interests that works to preserve dark money spending and crafts industry-favored legislation frequently passed by Republican lawmakers.

 

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