Jason Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/26/trump-obamacare-supreme-court-brief/ They already announced troops at the border to stop the migrant caravan come October, so I guess they're just trying to play all the greatest hits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 The cruelty is the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Might be forgetting some things, but as I recall, before the pandemic, there were two things that really seemed to drop Trump's approval rating outside of the very narrow range that it's tended to stay in: passing the tax bill that was very obviously rigged towards the ultra-rich, and almost destroying the ACA before McCain blocked it. So on an tactical level, it seems insane to want to pursue this in an election year, but I guess they really are that sociopathic that they can't abide by a small subset of the country getting government subsidies to make the cost of health care slightly less crippling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Ricofoley said: Might be forgetting some things, but as I recall, before the pandemic, there were two things that really seemed to drop Trump's approval rating outside of the very narrow range that it's tended to stay in: passing the tax bill that was very obviously rigged towards the ultra-rich, and almost destroying the ACA before McCain blocked it. So on an tactical level, it seems insane to want to pursue this in an election year, but I guess they really are that sociopathic that they can't abide by a small subset of the country getting government subsidies to make the cost of health care slightly less crippling. The Trump-era push to kill the ACA seemed to force a lot of the "pro ACA, anti Obamacare" mouth breathers to realize that the ACA is Obamacare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 8 hours ago, Ricofoley said: Might be forgetting some things, but as I recall, before the pandemic, there were two things that really seemed to drop Trump's approval rating outside of the very narrow range that it's tended to stay in: passing the tax bill that was very obviously rigged towards the ultra-rich, and almost destroying the ACA before McCain blocked it. So on an tactical level, it seems insane to want to pursue this in an election year, but I guess they really are that sociopathic that they can't abide by a small subset of the country getting government subsidies to make the cost of health care slightly less crippling. He's desperate. He's looking a these polling numbers and seeing that his own base is starting to abandon him which has always been his greatest fear. He'd rather lose with his base intact then lose catastrophically with a significant portion of his base abandoning him or worse, voting against him. That's why he looked so defeated after that rally last weekend. So he's playing the greatest hits in a desperate attempt to shore up his base. I don't even think it's about winning anymore... it's about not losing so badly that he stays relevant. That's really the only thing that makes sense at this point. Why else would you make this play DURING a global health crisis? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: He's desperate. He's looking a these polling numbers and seeing that his own base is starting to abandon him which has always been his greatest fear. He'd rather lose with his base intact then lose catastrophically with a significant portion of his base abandoning him or worse, voting against him. That's why he looked so defeated after that rally last weekend. So he's playing the greatest hits in a desperate attempt to shore up his base. I don't even think it's about winning anymore... it's about not losing so badly that he stays relevant. That's really the only thing that makes sense at this point. Why else would you make this play DURING a global health crisis? If you're a right wing sycophant in DOJ this is perhaps the last chance to kill Obamacare. This filing has less to do with trump than it does the conservative movement. They can lose trump, winning this case would be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: He's desperate. He's looking a these polling numbers and seeing that his own base is starting to abandon him which has always been his greatest fear. He'd rather lose with his base intact then lose catastrophically with a significant portion of his base abandoning him or worse, voting against him. That's why he looked so defeated after that rally last weekend. So he's playing the greatest hits in a desperate attempt to shore up his base. I don't even think it's about winning anymore... it's about not losing so badly that he stays relevant. That's really the only thing that makes sense at this point. Why else would you make this play DURING a global health crisis? I don’t get involved in much political debate, because I hold views from both sides of the aisle, but isn’t it obvious that this administration is just filled with bad people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 So when's the earliest they can make a ruling on it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: So when's the earliest they can make a ruling on it then? after hes out of office and Biden withdraws it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: after hes out of office and Biden withdraws it. The states (Texas et al) will still be party to the suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The states (Texas et al) will still be party to the suit. I don't think it matters anyways, SCOTUS likely shuts this down like the previous 2 attempts simply because they'd be motivating dems to just pass M4A, which is really the only option left since strengthening the ACA would no longer be an option. Its an astoundingly bad thing to do for the GOP all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 34 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: I don't think it matters anyways, SCOTUS likely shuts this down like the previous 2 attempts simply because they'd be motivating dems to just pass M4A, which is really the only option left since strengthening the ACA would no longer be an option. Its an astoundingly bad thing to do for the GOP all around. I don't think anyone has ever really accused the gop of acting in an intelligent fashion but they sure as shit are ideological Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 12 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said: The cruelty is the point. Evergreen tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 52 minutes ago, osxmatt said: Evergreen tweet. Can't let the under classes has inexpensive healthcare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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