SaysWho? Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Brett Kavanaugh wrote the 7-2 opinion. He was joined by the court's four liberals and Republican appointed judges Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito. Justices Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch dissented. Quote The Supreme Court on Friday reversed the conviction of a Mississippi death row inmate who said the state prosecutor repeatedly kicked black people off the jury each time he was tried for the same murders. The court sent the case back to the state for further proceedings. The ruling was a victory for Curtis Flowers, who is black. He was tried six times for the 1996 murder of four furniture store employees in Winona, Mississippi, where he had recently worked. Of the first five trials, one conviction was thrown out over questions about evidence and two resulted in mistrials. But in the other two trials, state courts found that the prosecutor in the case, Doug Evans, wrongly excluded potential jurors on the basis of their race. In the case before the Supreme Court involving his sixth and most recent trial, Flowers again accused the prosecutor of impermissibly removing blacks from the jury. Quote Justice Clarence Thomas asked a few questions when the case was argued in March, breaking his three-year courtroom silence. He wanted to know if the defense lawyers used any peremptory challenges to exclude potential jurors. Told that they did, Thomas asked, "And what was the race of the jurors struck there?" The answer: only whites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 This podcast covers the case pretty extensively. https://www.apmreports.org/in-the-dark/season-two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 The In The Dark season on this case is really unsettling. The prosecutor should be disbarred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Is anything, I don't know, given to these poor people that wasted a significant chunk of their lives like this? I don't know much about the subject but are they at the very least given some sort of compensation/reparation for their lost time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: Is anything, I don't know, given to these poor people that wasted a significant chunk of their lives like this? I don't know much about the subject but are they at the very least given some sort of compensation/reparation for their lost time? That only occurs in situations of wrongful conviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: Is anything, I don't know, given to these poor people that wasted a significant chunk of their lives like this? I don't know much about the subject but are they at the very least given some sort of compensation/reparation for their lost time? Wrongful conviction compensation varies widely from state to state. Anything outside of a clear wrongful conviction will not be compensated at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Wrongful conviction compensation varies widely from state to state. Anything outside of a clear wrongful conviction will not be compensated at all. Absolutely a guillotine scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 For all those people who are hawks about how taxpayer money is spent, how do you feel about the amount of money spent by states and municipalities for wrongful convictions and police shootings? Chicago for example, spends a LOT of money on wrongful deaths and civil suits against law enforcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: For all those people who are hawks about how taxpayer money is spent, how do you feel about the amount of money spent by states and municipalities for wrongful convictions and police shootings? Chicago for example, spends a LOT of money on wrongful deaths and civil suits against law enforcement. That shit should come right out of police pensions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Based solely on my 2 experiences during jury duty, keeping the juror pool free of people who look like the defendant happens all the fucking time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 So he's again cleared and again able to be put on trial again? Unfortunately, it doesn't seem likely to me that the prosecutor will give this up, though it certainly seems like there should be some punishment for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, TwinIon said: So he's again cleared and again able to be put on trial again? Unfortunately, it doesn't seem likely to me that the prosecutor will give this up, though it certainly seems like there should be some punishment for this. Yup, reset back to the point if his initial arrest. And clearly this is a personal issue for the prosecutor, he simply won’t let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I know nothing about the law. How is it they’re able to try him over and over again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mercury33 said: I know nothing about the law. How is it they’re able to try him over and over again? Because he has never been actually acquitted (found "not guilty") of the crime, the legal provisions preventing "double jeopardy" do not apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 2 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: For all those people who are hawks about how taxpayer money is spent, how do you feel about the amount of money spent by states and municipalities for wrongful convictions and police shootings? Chicago for example, spends a LOT of money on wrongful deaths and civil suits against law enforcement. I have a lot of problems with the way tax dollars are spent, especially on putting minorities in jail on non violent drug charges, and all the things you mentioned. It’s billions of dollars a year that would be better served improving the communities it harms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mercury33 said: I know nothing about the law. How is it they’re able to try him over and over again? Unless he's acquitted and found not guilty, it's up to the prosecutors if they want to keep trying him... which they chose to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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