Anyone else get tired of every party/strong man getting compared to Nazis/Hitler?

[Xbob42]

3 hours ago, Fizzzzle said:

I just think comparing anyone you don't like to Nazis/Hitler is emotionally manipulative. You can't come up with an actually good argument to why someone is bad so you say they're a Nazi, because everyone agrees Nazis are bad, therefore if you say someone else is a Nazi, then everyone has to be on your side, otherwise that makes THEM Nazis, too.

 

You don't have to call Putin a Nazi for everyone to agree that he's a skid mark on the underpants of civilization. You don't have to call Trump a Nazi to believe he's a pathological liar and narcissist. Those things are very, very evident to people with brains. Putin and Trump may be many things, and there is certainly plenty of overlap in the venn diagram comparing them to Nazis, but what they are not, are Nazis.

 

It's emotionally manipulative and intellectually dishonest to just call anyone you don't like a Nazi.

 

Thankfully I don't see it here very often, if ever. It's mainly reserved for the bird app and youtube comments sections, or your aunt's facebook posts.

Know who else didn't like emotional manipulation?

 

Hitler.

[Brick]

I think, and have said this before, that calling someone a nazi/Hitler has been so overused in the past that when someone who does have a lot of parallels to Hitler comes along, like Trump, it's lost its impact and meaning because too many people were nonchalantly already called that when, as bad as they may have been, weren't exactly deserving of that moniker. It was the whole, "anyone you don't like is a nazi" mentality. Let's be honest though, had Trump been born a few decades earlier he totally would have been flying the swastika flag. He practically is already. 

[Fizzzzle]

42 minutes ago, Brick said:

I think, and have said this before, that calling someone a nazi/Hitler has been so overused in the past that when someone who does have a lot of parallels to Hitler comes along, like Trump, it's lost its impact and meaning because too many people were nonchalantly already called that when, as bad as they may have been, weren't exactly deserving of that moniker. It was the whole, "anyone you don't like is a nazi" mentality. Let's be honest though, had Trump been born a few decades earlier he totally would have been flying the swastika flag. He practically is already. 

If there's one thing that's ever made me think that reincarnation might be real, it's that Donald Trump was born 14 months after the death of Mussolini. I'm not sure what the gestation period of reincarnation would be, but those two assclowns are basically two peas in a pod and 14 months is shockingly close to how long a sperm cell lives + pregnancy.

 

Reincarnation isn't real, but if someone came up with some kind of evidence and used Mussolini reincarnating into Trump as proof, I might go "..... yeah, that sounds about right."

[Bloodporne]

As a German...I really don't like it. I'm not sure that's based on sound logic or anything but it just irks me a bit every time Americans around me randomly throw around Nazi and Hitler as an equivalent for "bad". This isn't aimed at anyone I can think of on this board since everyone is generally not that stupid on here. 

[Brick]

2 hours ago, Fizzzzle said:

If there's one thing that's ever made me think that reincarnation might be real, it's that Donald Trump was born 14 months after the death of Mussolini. I'm not sure what the gestation period of reincarnation would be, but those two assclowns are basically two peas in a pod and 14 months is shockingly close to how long a sperm cell lives + pregnancy.

 

Reincarnation isn't real, but if someone came up with some kind of evidence and used Mussolini reincarnating into Trump as proof, I might go "..... yeah, that sounds about right."

 

Or, you know, Hitler. 

[Keyser_Soze]

16 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

 This isn't aimed at anyone I can think of on this board since everyone is generally not that stupid on here. 

 

I don't think you "act German" enough on here to get people to be throwing around German stereotypes at you.

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

As a German...I really don't like it. I'm not sure that's based on sound logic or anything but it just irks me a bit every time Americans around me randomly throw around Nazi and Hitler as an equivalent for "bad". This isn't aimed at anyone I can think of on this board since everyone is generally not that stupid on here. 

It diminishes the particular and acute evils of the Nazi regime when you constantly invoke them as a proxy for being a bad person.

 

I also generally think we should be specific about the wrong things (or right things!) people or groups do instead of just throwing some label on them even if the label might fit. We should always be able to rationalize our positions.

[Fizzzzle]

11 minutes ago, Brick said:

 

Or, you know, Hitler. 

Trump is definitely more of a Mussolini to me. He doesn't really believe in much of anything, just being King of the world, however that comes about. Say what you will about Hitler, but the man had, um... principles? If you want to call it that?

 

Mussolini just kind of rolled with the tide in whichever way was going to get him more power and fame. Mussolini's beliefs can be accurately described by the phrase "when it suited him."

[Fizzzzle]

Mussolini was pro-war when it suited him. He was anti-war when it suited him. He was Communist when it suited him. He was anti-communist when it suited him. I can't recall a time he was ever publicly monarchist (beyond using the monarchy for legitimacy), but I'm sure he would have done that, too, if it suited him.

 

He was a man who believed in nothing other than power and glory for the sake of power and glory. That sounds more like Trump than Hitler does.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

I actually kinda/sorta admire and appreciate Mussolini for his intellectual "flexibility".

[Bloodporne]

45 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said:

 

I don't think you "act German" enough on here to get people to be throwing around German stereotypes at you.

I'm fully and thoroughly Americanized. Been here way too long. But I was also raised over there and went on school educational trips to Buchenwald KZ and never didn't hear about WWII, Nazis etc. in my youth from my family so I can't ignore the very specific impact in favor of people trying to make their silly point on Twitter for example. 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

49 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said:

Say what you will about Hitler, but the man had, um... principles? If you want to call it that?

Say what you will about the tenants of national socialism dude but at least it’s an ethos

[Bloodporne]

56 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Say what you will about the tenants of national socialism dude but at least it’s an ethos

I hate that I have this quote in my head so often when any Nazi shit comes up. 

[Jason]

I don't see Nazis as devil worshipers. I see 'em more like a gathering of people.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Like you don’t have to say this shit but they constantly do

[Keyser_Soze]

Hitler picked himself up by the bootstraps

[MarSolo]

4 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

I actually kinda/sorta admire and appreciate Mussolini for his intellectual "flexibility".

 

In my circle we call that being “Italian”.

[MarSolo]

18 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Like you don’t have to say this shit but they constantly do

“From Homeless to Holocaust: the Adolf Story”