CitizenVectron Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Ruskies be like, oh yeah we can make cool videos too!! Oh fuck! BAM GOTTEM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Air_Delivery Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 With the short range and as slow the TOS-1 is, it would get wrecked by the HIMARS. The only use it would have is if they already surrounded a city and have Ukrainian soldiers holed up somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 All it took was a couple dozen modern US artillery systems, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 4 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: All it took was a couple dozen modern US artillery systems, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 UA has control over at least some of the western half of Kup'yansk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Russia is completely collapsing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 Centre of Kup'yansk: Omg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 Over 2,500 square km retaken, now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Trap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Trap? Nah its over, they're not exacting much damage on advancing Ukrainian troops and leaving HUGE amounts of equipment behind, they'll be lucky to hold on to their gains from 2014 at this rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Sounds like Russia abandoned the net during a desperate power play and are getting wrecked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 Ukrainians simply said they are going after Lyman next...and the Russians have abandoned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 ISW analysis for 09 September 2022: Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, September 9 | Institute for the Study of War WWW.UNDERSTANDINGWAR.ORG Ukrainian forces have captured an estimated 2,500 square kilometers in Kharkiv Oblast in the Kharkiv area counteroffensive as of September 9. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhnyi stated on September 8 Quote Click here to see ISW’s interactive map of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. This map is updated daily alongside the static maps present in this report. Ukrainian forces have captured an estimated 2,500 square kilometers in Kharkiv Oblast in the Kharkiv area counteroffensive as of September 9. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhnyi stated on September 8 that Ukrainian forces liberated over 1,000 square kilometers between September 1-8 – a day before Ukrainian forces reached the southern approach to Kupyansk and the Oskil River on September 9.[1] Ukrainian forces are likely clearing pockets of disorganized Russian forces caught in the rapid Ukrainian advance to Kupyansk, Izyum, and the Oskil River, given the influx of observed pictures of Russian prisoners of war in the past 48 hours.[2] Ukrainian forces may collapse Russian positions around Izyum if they sever Russian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) north and south of Izyum. Ukrainian forces continued to advance on Kupyansk and towards Izyum on September 9, and are undertaking measures to isolate the Russian Izyum grouping of forces. If Ukrainians are successful in severing the Russian GLOCs, then they will have an opportunity to create a cauldron around Izyum and collapse a major portion of the Russian positions in northeastern Ukraine. The Kremlin is rushing resources to the Kharkiv City-Izyum line in an attempt to halt Ukrainian advances after Ukrainian forces achieved remarkable operational surprise. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and Kremlin wires published footage of Russian military convoys reportedly en route to reinforce Kupyansk, Izyum, and the general Kharkiv direction but did not acknowledge Ukrainian successes in the area.[3] While Russian milbloggers largely welcomed the reports of reinforcements, some criticized the Kremlin for first relocating units away from the Kharkiv City-Izyum line, only to deploy them again to the same location.[4] Russian forces have been redeploying out of southern Kharkiv Oblast to reinforce Donetsk Oblast and the Southern Axis to address the threat of a Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kherson Oblast and to resume offensive operations west of Donetsk City for several weeks.[5] The successful Ukrainian counteroffensive is upending the Kremlin’s effort to make Izyum an economy of force area. Some milbloggers also noted that September 10 will be a decisive day if Russians are unable to generate reserves and capable command in time.[6] The Kremlin is refusing to publicly address Ukrainian successes in Kharkiv Oblast, but the counteroffensive likely prompted Russian President Vladimir Putin to convene a meeting with top Russian security and political officials on September 9.[7] The Kremlin did not discuss the topic of the security council meeting, and the Kremlin’s Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov stated that the Kremlin will not comment on the “situation around Balakliya and other events in the special operation zone.”[8] Peskov directed all inquiries regarding the issue to the Russian MoD. Ukraine’s counteroffensive operation in Kherson Oblast to degrade Russian forces on the Southern Axis is continuing simultaneously with Ukrainian operations on the Kharkiv City-Izyum line. Ukrainian forces continue to target Russian pontoon and ferry crossings daily, indicating a long-term commitment to consistently destroying re-emerging Russian GLOCs. Ukrainian forces are maintaining a strict operational silence in southern Ukraine, which may appear as if Ukrainian forces are not advancing. Ukrainian forces are also likely operating in several directions in Kherson Oblast. Key Takeaways Ukrainian forces have captured an estimated 2,500 square kilometers in Kharkiv Oblast in the Kharkiv counteroffensive as of September 9. The Kremlin is rushing resources to Kharkiv Oblast in response to effective Ukrainian operations. Ukrainian forces reached the outskirts of Kupyansk and are advancing on Izyum from the northwest, north, northeast, and southeast as of September 9 and will likely sever Russian ground lines of communication (GLOCS) to Izyum within the coming days. Ukrainian forces may have advanced north of Hrushivka towards a Russian logistics hub in Velykyi Burluk, northeastern Kharkiv Oblast. Ukrainian forces are continuing counteroffensive operations in southern Ukraine, including interdicting Russian GLOCS, degrading Russian morale. Russian forces conducted ground assaults north of Kharkiv City and across the Eastern Axis. The United Nations released a report detailing poor Russian treatment of Ukrainian POWs and detained civilians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 At this rate Ukraine will be in Moscow by Christmas. Lysychansk is the twin city to Severodonetsk. If those names are familiar, it's because they were the two cities that Russia took months to take in their grinding advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 Possibly some breakthroughs in the Kherson offensive as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 Rumours of battles at the Donetsk airport on Russian telegram. Almost certainly false, but a good indicator of how much the Russians fear Ukraine, now. Ukraine is like Batman to them, and could be anywhere at anytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 A "regrouping" where the men leave all their tanks and weapons behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 The man behind the Kharkiv offensive, and who was behind the Kyiv defense. Here he is with the forces in liberated Balakliya yesterday/today, raising the flag and giving a speech. Compare him to the Russian leaders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: The man behind the Kharkiv offensive, and who was behind the Kyiv defense. Here he is with the forces in liberated Balakliya yesterday/today, raising the flag and giving a speech. Compare him to the Russian leaders. I keep thinking about that fight at Antonov Airport, and how that might have very well been the difference between Kyiv falling or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Chris- said: I keep thinking about that fight at Antonov Airport, and how that might have very well been the difference between Kyiv falling or not. Absolutely. Apparently the US knew about the attack in advance and told Ukraine, which is what allowed them to get troops there in time to take back the airport before Russia had full control. The real issue facing Russia right now is that they have no defense in depth in the east. In Kherson they do, and are prepared for a Ukrainian advance (which is why Ukraine is moving slower, and clearly attempting to starve them out), but in the east Russia just had a strong front line (which obviously wasn't even strong)...and then just miles of farms and towns with nothing but a few command posts and ammo dumps. So now, the front line is collapsing back, and they have nowhere to stand their ground even if they wanted to. And as they reach each checkpoint, the few reserves there fall back in fear as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 Russian milbloggers have worked themselves into a tizzy and everyone thinks the Ukrainians are right on the Russian border in Kharkiv/Belogorod (which they aren't). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 How many more routs do the Russians stand for before they go full-on war crimey scorched earth and start slaughtering Ukrainian civilians everywhere they can? I get the sense stuff like this might finally start to turn on the “crap, maybe victory isn’t inevitable” lightbulb amongst the Russian military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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