Sony Helldivers 2 announced for PS5/PC! - update: Super Earth's managed democracy eradicates the Automaton faction, extra 1 minute break issued to all Helldivers

[Paperclyp]

5 minutes ago, Brick said:

 

I'm pretty sure @XxEvil AshxX was joking. 

…….oh

[LazyPiranha]

3 hours ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

Why would it piss anyone off? The first game did the exact same thing over and over. That'd be weird to be upset by a mechanic people have known this game would have since the first has had it for a decade.

This game has already massively outsold the original.  I know people in my personal life who play one or two games year who either bought this game or have asked me about it.  The majority of players have never played the original and probably would have no idea this was a sequel if 2 wasn’t in the title.  Most people who play this game have no clue what was or wasn’t present in the original.  If you’re just jumping on the bandwagon now, I don’t think being surprised that an entire faction isn’t playable for a while is unreasonable.  
 

On top of that, the original didn’t require an internet connection to play, you could just play by yourself offline.  I never played the original, but I’m assuming with no connection to the meta-game online, you could just play whatever you wanted even if a faction was off the map for a bit, because how would your offline game know that?  
 

Also don’t get annoyed at outlets playing the game for clicks and engagement, the entire internet is ruined that way.  We built the shittiest version of something possible and made it impossible to succeed otherwise, it’s not their fault.

[Greatoneshere]

53 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said:

This game has already massively outsold the original.  I know people in my personal life who play one or two games year who either bought this game or have asked me about it.  The majority of players have never played the original and probably would have no idea this was a sequel if 2 wasn’t in the title.  Most people who play this game have no clue what was or wasn’t present in the original.  If you’re just jumping on the bandwagon now, I don’t think being surprised that an entire faction isn’t playable for a while is unreasonable. 

 

I'm not sure about the first game being played offline, I only ever played it online. But if your defense is that casuals are stupid, don't know they are playing a sequel, don't understand how the gameplay loop works even if there was a first game to go off of first, etc. you won't find any sympathy here. Their ignorance isn't a criticism of the developer, it's a criticism of casual gamers. I do think if you're just "jumping on the bandwagon now" that being surprised is unreasonable, that's my entire argument. The slightest amount of research (like with anything) would elucidate this for them.

 

If most people playing this game don't understand the gameplay loop, the articles are still stupid for not informing them better/more clearly rather than trying to drum up clickbait. I don't disagree with you that most Helldivers 2 players, like most people in general, are idiots, but idiots making stupid "jump to conclusions mat" Office Space style are to be chastised and educated, not justified.

[Paperclyp]

1 hour ago, LazyPiranha said:

 

Also don’t get annoyed at outlets playing the game for clicks and engagement, the entire internet is ruined that way.  We built the shittiest version of something possible and made it impossible to succeed otherwise, it’s not their fault.

It’s not impossible to succeed otherwise and I’ll get annoyed at whatever I want. 

[XxEvil AshxX]

4 hours ago, Brick said:

 

I'm pretty sure @XxEvil AshxX was joking. 

 

I forgot I even made that comment lol.

[LazyPiranha]

3 hours ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

I'm not sure about the first game being played offline, I only ever played it online. But if your defense is that casuals are stupid, don't know they are playing a sequel, don't understand how the gameplay loop works even if there was a first game to go off of first, etc. you won't find any sympathy here. Their ignorance isn't a criticism of the developer, it's a criticism of casual gamers. I do think if you're just "jumping on the bandwagon now" that being surprised is unreasonable, that's my entire argument. The slightest amount of research (like with anything) would elucidate this for them.

 

If most people playing this game don't understand the gameplay loop, the articles are still stupid for not informing them better/more clearly rather than trying to drum up clickbait. I don't disagree with you that most Helldivers 2 players, like most people in general, are idiots, but idiots making stupid "jump to conclusions mat" Office Space style are to be chastised and educated, not justified.

How in the hell did we get to the conclusion that you’re in idiot for not playing a game from nine years ago?  You’re angry about clickbait titles that aren’t even clickbait, but you also think someone is a dipshit if they found out about a popular game because it was popular and didn’t do an oral history of the previous game before playing?  You call people stupid casuals for not knowing the gameplay loop of a game they didn’t play or a game that hasn’t fully revealed its own loop yet, while at the exact same time not knowing the mechanics of the original game yourself?  What are we even doing here?

[Greatoneshere]

1 hour ago, LazyPiranha said:

How in the hell did we get to the conclusion that you’re in idiot for not playing a game from nine years ago?  You’re angry about clickbait titles that aren’t even clickbait, but you also think someone is a dipshit if they found out about a popular game because it was popular and didn’t do an oral history of the previous game before playing?  You call people stupid casuals for not knowing the gameplay loop of a game they didn’t play or a game that hasn’t fully revealed its own loop yet, while at the exact same time not knowing the mechanics of the original game yourself?  What are we even doing here?

 

Yes, if someone plays a sequel to the same gameplay loop as the previous game and instead believes the race is completely gone in the sequel game (to the degree it "pisses them off") then that's stupid. I said nothing about needing to have played the previous game to know this, you can just look it up online. I'm not angry about anything, I'm simply stating a fact that having clicked the article (and seen others online) that it's clickbait because there's no controversy here. And you exaggerate. Finding out the race isn't permanently gone isn't doing an oral history, it takes a second to find out, it's not work. I know enough of the mechanics of a game that they aren't going to perma-delete an entire race that's part of the gameplay loop. And me knowing/not knowing the offline/online aspect of Helldivers 1 isn't causing me to come to incomplete or incorrect conclusions about the sequel since I'm not disputing or criticizing what the game is doing with that mechanic or feature. So yes, I'm going to call someone stupid if they truly believe "race is gone permanently from sequel game" because one would assume something, anything else first since that's an incredibly stupid conclusion to come to. You don't need to even know the gameplay loop to assume how stupid that is to believe. 

[Paperclyp]

The only reason they would think the race is gone for any significant period of time is if they only read purposely misleading click bait headlines. 

[Mercury33]

A lot of very UnDemocratic takes in this thread 👀

[Brick]

On 2/20/2024 at 7:06 PM, Brick said:

I know the developers said they wouldn't add in PvP because they want to avoid any toxicity forming in the community, but I took that as Helldivers vs. Helldivers, but what about Helldivers vs. player controlled bugs/robots ala Left 4 Dead? That might work. 

 

After now putting in over 50 hours into this game, and wishing I had even more, I realize this really isn't that type of game at all, and wouldn't be needed/fit. I thought of this before getting the game, so didn't really understand the gameplay loop, so it doesn't need a mode like that. I wonder what other kind of variety they could add to the mission types though. They recently added an almost tower defense mission. 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

The Helldivers 2 community honors a fallen Helldiver - VideoGamer

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The Helldivers 2 community has come together on Reddit to pay tribute and honor a fallen Helldiver who tragically lost her life.

 

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Within the first month of Helldivers 2 being released it sold over eight million copies, and that number has only continued to grow. Hundreds of thousands of players jump into the game every day to work together to spread democracy to the galaxy, often teaming up with people they have never met but share the same common goal. Unfortunately, not all of the Helldivers make it home and some have sadly been lost along the way, including Luce, a level 53 Helldiver that went by the handle ‘Fire and -ice-.’

 

U/Ghostga took to Reddit to share the sad news that a fellow Helldiver has fallen with a post titled “My Friend, Luce, passed away recently from a car crash and she was an avid Helldivers 2 player, getting every achievement and getting all the way to level 53. Rest in peace Luce.”

 

The Helldivers 2 community has come together to pay tribute to Luce with a sea of Helldivers 2 GIFs in the comments saluting the fallen soldier. Some other players gave more personal tributes, including u/ArtistAncient7924 who said,

 

“We are truly sorry for your loss. She fought in the name of managed Democracy and now she will rest in the light of liberty. We truly thank her for the amazing work and enthusiasm she had for diving. Let’s make these binary speakers regret in her name!”

 

U/Joy1067 is paying tribute to Luce during the current Major Order saying “Next bug hole I see, I’m tossing a grenade in for Luce,” while u/Ghostly-Terra also gave their condolences saying “The SES Hammer of Dawn shall launch a 380mm Barrage as a Multigun salute to the fallen.”