unogueen Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 As someone who attended high school in the 90s, a prevalent sentiment was a nihilism about the truth of the world. Whether it was the racial reckoning of protest rap, or the unraveling of the nuclear family in grunge. Most of my cohorts didn't have much great ambitions beyond making ends meet. Even the rave scene for all it's energy seemed to be more of lemming run than constructive. The one ray of sunshine that was the church of house was popularly derided as 'gay crap', but was a warm home for many miscreants like me and my friends. It felt like things were building to an inevitable crescendo where a reckoning would be made. Of course there is cynicism and anger today, but it feels like art and product perform as pressure valves that release the tension than build on it. Or I'm just old probably. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 The cynicism was at the obvious fakeness of American values. Now anger not cynicism is driven by PRO-American value fantasies. Literally the opposite of the 90s culturally. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I can never understand your posts. It's literally like you write in another language. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, best3444 said: I can never understand your posts. It's literally like you write in another language. English is like my third language. My grammar and imagery is an unknown hodgepodge I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 The 90s were also highly about being horrible to people, pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, stepee said: The 90s were also highly about being horrible to people, pass. A LIKELY STORY FROM A CRIPPLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, stepee said: The 90s were also highly about being horrible to people, pass. No more than previous generations. The gatekeeping in older eras was a dormouse like an extension of segregation. I think the tussle was good in the end, but not that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 All I know is there was diss wars and I got to punch a lot of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 I don't mean I want the 90s back as a package. But I do want the rejection of the contemporary back. For all the segmentation back then, each movement would evolve itself to incorporate each other over time because of the acknowledged bifurcation. It took a while, and the whole post racial bullshit. But it was nothing like the death of disco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 what's sparking this recent 90's nostalgia you're feeling, unogueen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I technically went to hs in the 90s too. 1996-2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Compared to 00s nihilism? Yeah, I absolutely do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 29 minutes ago, heydude93 said: what's sparking this recent 90's nostalgia you're feeling, unogueen? There's a cheerleading spirit that seems pretty unearned today when so many lean on the political spectrum to make amends. There is no doubt that trickle down works for the political class, and with the insistence of corporate conformity (which is an empty hand), the energy is in the wrong place. Better for people to know that we live in evil times and the only recuse we have is each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, unogueen said: There's a cheerleading spirit that seems pretty unearned today when so many lean on the political spectrum to make amends. There is no doubt that trickle down works for the political class, and with the insistence of corporate conformity (which is an empty hand), the energy is in the wrong place. Better for people to know that we live in evil times and the only recuse we have is each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 anywho to answer the question in the OP lets just say i'm increasingly content to have stopped feeling that emotion entirely for years now. for whatever reason it seems many who haven't seem susceptible to provocation, selectiveness with facts, scapegoating, preferences of using optics and myth making/storytelling instead of engaging with any disagreements, etc ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, best3444 said: more mad, less delegation. I don't want defeat, I want a fighting chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, unogueen said: more mad, less delegation. I don't want defeat, I want a fighting chance. lol thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, best3444 said: lol thanks I think at the core you have only met a part of humanity. The supreme court took away abortion without effort. Mexico threatened to crush their lineage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 90’s nihilists were as full of it as 60’s hippies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 No. I think cynicism is lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, stepee said: 90’s nihilists were as full of it as 60’s hippies As useful as any of us. It strikes me endlessly that the right wing of america homebrew an opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: No. I think cynicism is lazy. Yup... and in my experience those who can AFFORD to be cynics usually are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Yup... and in my experience those who can AFFORD to be cynics usually are. afford to be miserable sounds like apologia like charity ads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 In my OP I provide protest rap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 @skillzdadirectaYou know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, unogueen said: afford to be miserable sounds like apologia like charity ads. I have no idea what you're saying here. 2 minutes ago, unogueen said: In my OP I provide protest rap. I don't consider "protest rap" or as it's better known "Conscious hip hop" to be cynical... maybe we're talking about two different things here. Also from where I'm sitting, the 90's is when Hip hop started to die it's long and still ongoing death as an artform for and by the people. Outside of a few select artists, hip for me, reached its peak in 92'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just now, unogueen said: @skillzdadirectaYou know No... I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I don't consider "protest rap" or as it's better known "Conscious hip hop" to be cynical... maybe we're talking about two different things here. Also from where I'm sitting, the 90's is when Hip hop started to die it's long and still ongoing death as an artform for and by the people. Outside of a few select artists, hip for me, reached its peak in 92'. What doesn't resonate, besides your asshandedness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 decades is a helluva grudge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 50 minutes ago, unogueen said: What doesn't resonate, besides your asshandedness. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 i mean if what you want is to roll us back a few decades culturally there is an entire political party for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, stepee said: i mean if what you want is to roll us back a few decades culturally there is an entire political party for that Really? What’s it called, I’d like to join it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Biggie said: Really? What’s it called, I’d like to join it. actually I think it’s the forward party 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 11 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: I have no idea what you're saying here. So I'm not the only one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysDyingX Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I too miss teenage angst and Limp Bizkit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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