Xbob42 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 The man has once again ascended. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 15 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: You truly understand! I said to my wife just the other day, well now maybe more Ubisoft games will actually run smoothly! I will get you before and after benchs for AC Valhalla, Far Cry 6, Cyberpunk, and Guardians of the Galaxy. Any others? Do you have Crysis Remastered? That would be interesting since nothing around could hold 60 before! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, stepee said: Do you have Crysis Remastered? That would be interesting since nothing around could hold 60 before! I have all three! Can do on that as well! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: I have all three! Can do on that as well! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I want one, but picked up an RF 85 F1.2 and 28-70 F2 the last few months so I should wait I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ominous said: I want one, but picked up an RF 85 F1.2 and 28-70 F2 the last few months so I should wait I guess. Oomph, yeah, you've definitely blown your load for a bit with those purchases! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Oomph, yeah, you've definitely blown your load for a bit with those purchases! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 OK, here are my current gaming benchmarks for the requested titles: Current build: i9-9900K @5.1 all cores, 32Gb DDR4 @3200, 3090 @stock speed, Nvidia driver: 496.49 Valhalla - 65 Odyssey - 68 Far Cry 6 - 71 Cyberpunk - 60/68 (frame rate is inconsistent on this game, hence the range) GoTG - 98 -DLSS "Balanced" Crysis Remastered - 65 DLSS "Performance" All frame rates are taken from that game's built in average or my average based on running the game in a demanding area. All games have been run in 4K at max settings with DLSS/FSR used as available. (for DLSS I typically run balanced or quality mode) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 43 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: OK, here are my current gaming benchmarks for the requested titles: Current build: i9-9900K @5.1 all cores, 32Gb DDR4 @3200, 3090 @stock speed, Nvidia driver: 496.49 Valhalla - 65 Odyssey - 68 Far Cry 6 - 71 Cyberpunk - 60/68 (frame rate is inconsistent on this game, hence the range) GoTG - 98 Crysis Remastered - not yet tested (Soon!) All frame rates are taken from that game's built in average or my average based on running the game in a demanding area. All games have been run in 4K at max settings with DLSS/FSR used as available. (for DLSS I typically run balanced or quality mode) Damn what dlss mode is that for GOTG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 hours ago, stepee said: Damn what dlss mode is that for GOTG? That's balanced with "very high" ray tracing enabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 11 hours ago, stepee said: Damn what dlss mode is that for GOTG? The game runs like butter. My 3080 got 83fps at 4k, max settings - my new 3080 Ti gets 96fps. I have PCIE 3.0 on and not 4.0 enabled, though, because stupid AMD motherboards won’t boot if you enable 4.0 and have a 3.0 card plugged in despite PCIE being backwards compatible (I have a usb 3.2 expansion card for an extra internal header). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Reviews are out! And it's actually pretty good. The biggest leap Intel has had since Sandy Bridge. They have taken the performance crown from AMD, although under a full workload 12th gen is not as efficient as Ryzen, consuming quite a bit more power. Intel 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake-S" Review Roundup | VideoCardz.com VIDEOCARDZ.COM Featured, INTEL Core 12000, News, Review Roundup Intel launches 12th Gen Core CPUs The embargo on independent reviews of the Alder Lake-S desktop series has officially lifted. Intel Alder Lake-S Reviews Intel Core i9-12900K and Core i5-12600K Review: Retaking the Gaming Crown | Tom's Hardware WWW.TOMSHARDWARE.COM Alder vs Zen, Fight! Intel Core i9-12900K Review: Alder Lake Arrives | TechSpot WWW.TECHSPOT.COM Starting with the top-of-the-line Core i9-12900K CPU, we can finally show you how Intel's new 12th generation Alder Lake processor architecture performs and how it's positioned against... /review/intel-core-i5-12600k-alder-lake-12th-gen/images/small.png Intel Core i5-12600K Review - Winning Price/Performance WWW.TECHPOWERUP.COM Core i5-12600K is the price/performance king in the Intel Alder Lake lineup. With its competitive pricing of $300 it's a clear winner against AMD's Ryzen 5 5600X and is faster than even the 5800X in many applications and games. This is the gaming CPU you want. @Mr.Vic20 Good thing you got a beefy cooler, because it seems anything less than 360mm (or a loud 280mm) will thermal throttle the CPU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 Yup, despite the hype around this chip, I knew it would run hotter than my current one as intel missed 7nm fab for this generation. Impressive for 10nm fab, but still 10nm fab all the same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Yup, despite the hype around this chip, I knew it would run hotter than my current one as intel missed 7nm fab for this generation. Impressive for 10nm fab, but still 10nm fab all the same! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Yup, despite the hype around this chip, I knew it would run hotter than my current one as intel missed 7nm fab for this generation. Impressive for 10nm fab, but still 10nm fab all the same! You could go custom water-cooling. Just like me you can order all the parts and have them sit on the floor for months! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said: You could go custom water-cooling. Just like me you can order all the parts and have them sit on the floor for months! Much as I love a good project, the years of building my own loops are definitely behind me! Work + kids leaves me with little desire to take on that level of DIY. I do love the looks of a full liquid cooled system though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 22 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Much as I love a good project, the years of building my own loops are definitely behind me! Work + kids leaves me with little desire to take on that level of DIY. I do love the looks of a full liquid cooled system though! It's my first time going custom. I should have everything ready to install, but I haven't mustered up the time and will to do it. I am going with soft tubing so it will almost be like a CLC loop in that I hope I won't have to disassemble the entire thing to swap a motherboard in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said: It's my first time going custom. I should have everything ready to install, but I haven't mustered up the time and will to do it. I am going with soft tubing so it will almost be like a CLC loop in that I hope I won't have to disassemble the entire thing to swap a motherboard in the future. Well, that's a piece of mercy! I'd like to see the finish product when you get around to it, if you don't mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Well, that's a piece of mercy! I'd like to see the finish product when you get around to it, if you don't mind? Yeah I plan to take some pictures, before and after. But I certainly don't intend to get the tubing to look absolutely perfect, I'll just let the RGB catch the eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said: Yeah I plan to take some pictures, before and after. But I certainly don't intend to get the tubing to look absolutely perfect, I'll just let the RGB catch the eye. I promise not to hold you to the internet's OCD level of polished PC build porn sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 Mobo shipped and is due tomorrow! Build time draws nigh! Sadly I'll need to use an air-cooled tower for a month a Corsair chose to ruin the party by not having their stellar looking iCUE H150i LCD AIO cooling Loop, but otherwise this will be lovely! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Mobo shipped and is due tomorrow! Build time draws nigh! Sadly I'll need to use an air-cooled tower for a month a Corsair chose to ruin the party by not having their stellar looking iCUE H150i LCD AIO cooling Loop, but otherwise this will be lovely! You should be getting the H170i anyway, sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: I promise not to hold you to the internet's OCD level of polished PC build porn sir! It's probably going to be gaudy, even for my tastes. I don't even know if I have enough RGB splitters for everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: You should be getting the H170i anyway, sir But then how would I get cat pics to flash up on my CPU's LCD shroud?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 10/30/2021 at 5:27 PM, stepee said: I wanna see some before/after on ubi games when you get it set up! Especially AC, ubi games seem to really like fast ram speed for whatever reason and I’m wondering if ddr5 gives them any sort of a boost! Cyberpunk too of course. I'd heard some talk about how the CAS latency of the early DDR5 modules is not great so it may not be all that much better than late-gen DDR4, but as the tech matures it will pull away. Will definitely be interesting to see some numbers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 10 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: But then how would I get cat pics to flash up on my CPU's LCD shroud?! It’s available in that LCD screen model too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 G.Skill celebrates Intel Alder Lake's launch by setting a new world record for DDR5 | PC Gamer WWW.PCGAMER.COM DDR5 hits 8,704MT/s using liquid nitrogen. Begun, the DDR5 OC wars have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 Too bad its latency that needs improving with DDR5 and not Mhz, at least for gaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Too bad its latency that needs improving with DDR5 and not Mhz, at least for gaming. As mhz goes up, latency seems to also go up. I remember with DDR1 or 2 I’d pay extra for insanely low CAS Latency RAM, now it seems to be “ “ as a priority. BTW, going by the reviews for the 170 Corsair AIOs vs the 150, cooling seems pretty much identical, the benefit for the 420mm is the 140mm fans being significantly quieter (and looking better in the case ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: As mhz goes up, latency seems to also go up. I remember with DDR1 or 2 I’d pay extra for insanely low CAS Latency RAM, now it seems to be “ “ as a priority. BTW, going by the reviews for the 170 Corsair AIOs vs the 150, cooling seems pretty much identical, the benefit for the 420mm is the 140mm fans being significantly quieter (and looking better in the case ) Yeah, seems so! Some think a CAS of 22 might be as low as DDR5 can go. We'll see how all that pans out in a year or two. For now though, and unsurprisingly, the lowest CAS highest DDR4 beats the current cream of the DDR5 crop in many games. I'll mess about with the fan curve to give me the ambience I'm comfortable with. I usually find a sweet spot where overclocking is still solid and the Dbs don't pass too far into the perceptible range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 OOOOK, so this rig has taken a bit to dial in. For some reason my DDR5 is cranky with the available XMP profiles and I'm guessing that's down to the profile calling for 1.25v and I'm thinking it should be closer to 1.35v @5200Mhz so I'm temporarily running it at 4400 at the moment. The i9-12900K is amazing! I'm running rock solid at 5.5Ghz on a temporary air cooling solution (82C under full load) as I'm still waiting for my AIO cooling loop to arrive. The list of games I benched before are on average 5-10 FPS higher, even with the current RAM issue! So it seems, and unsurprisingly so, that its all about the single core speed. Very happy right now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: OOOOK, so this rig has taken a bit to dial in. For some reason my DDR5 is cranky with the available XMP profiles and I'm guessing that's down to the profile calling for 1.25v and I'm thinking it should be closer to 1.35v @5200Mhz so I'm temporarily running it at 4400 at the moment. The i9-12900K is amazing! I'm running rock solid at 5.5Ghz on a temporary air cooling solution (82C under full load) as I'm still waiting for my AIO cooling loop to arrive. The list of games I benched before are on average 5-10 FPS higher, even with the current RAM issue! So it seems, and unsurprisingly so, that its all about the single core speed. Very happy right now! I didn't understand one thing in this post but I'm glad you're happy! I do understand you have an amazing rig. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, best3444 said: I didn't understand one thing in this post but I'm glad you're happy! I do understand you have an amazing rig. Good man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, best3444 said: I didn't understand one thing in this post but I'm glad you're happy! I do understand you have an amazing rig. You're such a cot damn liar. You understood he was happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: OOOOK, so this rig has taken a bit to dial in. For some reason my DDR5 is cranky with the available XMP profiles and I'm guessing that's down to the profile calling for 1.25v and I'm thinking it should be closer to 1.35v @5200Mhz so I'm temporarily running it at 4400 at the moment. The i9-12900K is amazing! I'm running rock solid at 5.5Ghz on a temporary air cooling solution (82C under full load) as I'm still waiting for my AIO cooling loop to arrive. The list of games I benched before are on average 5-10 FPS higher, even with the current RAM issue! So it seems, and unsurprisingly so, that its all about the single core speed. Very happy right now! 5-10 FPS, at 4k, is impressive. I bet the move from PCIE 3.0 to 4.0 is adding a little bit to that as well. Also there is yet another factor to memory performance besides speed, latency, and channels: Rank. There's single rank, dual rank, and quad+ ranks. You can achieve the fastest MHz for your RAM with single rank, but dual rank will typically offer a performance boost even at a slightly slower speed. Quad+ rank is not recommended, for those looking for pure performance, as it puts too much stress on the memory controller therefore limiting the speed and latency you can achieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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