SimpleG Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Project+ is mod that fixes bugs and allows for character balancing. This was a in person event and required the use of disks to play so it was pretty legit. Nintendo is doing themselves no favors here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Nintendo cracks down on modded shit hard. You are not allowed to show them up. They hate what Melee became as well. I'd bet that if they could get away with it they'd ban SSBU tournaments as well because they hate grown men taking their kid's party game seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 4 hours ago, SimpleG said: Nintendo is doing themselves no favors here. Sure but they are doing everyone else a favor, saving everyone from having to watch Pro Smash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: Sure but they are doing everyone else a favor, saving everyone from having to watch Pro Smash. Melee > DOTA2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bacon said: Melee > DOTA2 They both suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Just now, Keyser_Soze said: They both suck. Nah. Melee is the most hype "e-sports" around. I think even even pulled bigger numbers than SF during EVO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Both games are great. Anyway, bummer that Nintendo continues to suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Don’t blame Nintendo for wanting to stop these events from happening since it seems to be a breeding ground for sexual predators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: it seems to be a breeding ground for sexual predators Stinky ones from what I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggit Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Obviously a joke but somewhat relevant. Comments are also funny. Although it's kind of sad that some people would believe picture + text without question because it's dramatic... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxick Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Raggit said: Obviously a joke but somewhat relevant. Comments are also funny. Although it's kind of sad that some people would believe picture + text without question because it's dramatic... I'd say it's more so scary than it is sad. This is a daily occurrence on Facebook where an image with some text affixed to it gets shared a million times over if it aligns with a users political ideology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 16 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Sure but they are doing everyone else a favor, saving everyone from having to watch Pro Smash. Yeah we'd all rather watch other pro fighting games, where the players all use the same combos over and over and over and over and over again. Exciting! I'll burn your yurt down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 8 hours ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: Don’t blame Nintendo for wanting to stop these events from happening since it seems to be a breeding ground for sexual predators They’re okay with attaching their name to a community fraught with child abuse, but those dirty modders are a step too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Expecting “balance” from a Smash Bros game is a fundamentally flawed perspective to begin with, it’s always very obviously not been the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said: Expecting “balance” from a Smash Bros game is a fundamentally flawed perspective to begin with, it’s always very obviously not been the point. Good balance has never hurt game design though. You can't really blame people for wanting balance changes in a game they play a shit ton. Regardless, it was part of the aim of Project M/+. Which also happens to be a better Smash game than any official Nintendo release, arguably. It certainly feels the best to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: Good balance has never hurt game design though. You can't really blame people for wanting balance changes in a game they play a shit ton. And regardless, it was part of the aim of Project M/+. Which also so happens to (arguably) be a better Smash game than any official Nintendo release. It certainly feels the best to play. Oh I’m in favor of modding in general, so I have no issue with people going ahead and doing it. Balancing Smash Bros specifically seems like a fool’s errand given that balance is anathema to what Smash Bros. is about. But I’m a heathen who thinks that stock battles and eliminating items should be patched out of the games as options so maybe don’t listen to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Oh I’m in favor of modding in general, so I have no issue with people going ahead and doing it. Balancing Smash Bros specifically seems like a fool’s errand given that balance is anathema to what Smash Bros. is about. But I’m a heathen who thinks that stock battles and eliminating items should be patched out of the games as options so maybe don’t listen to me. Sounds like you already have strong opinions on the game being something it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: Sounds like you already have strong opinions on the game being something it's not. I suppose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Smash is already one of the most customizable games out there right now so the idea of modding it seem a bit crazy to me. Smash is basically whatever you want it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 9:28 AM, GameDadGrant said: Smash is already one of the most customizable games out there right now so the idea of modding it seem a bit crazy to me. Smash is basically whatever you want it to be. It's the control discrepancies between games that led people to think some entries screw up the fundamentals. In some cases there are things objectively worse, such as the input lag. I dropped Ultimate after a week because of it. I really would want modders to get in there and fix it. Even if it means I'd have to emulate it to play the game I bought. There's also the issue of the netcode. Someday I expect Ultimate will get its own hacky rollback solution like Slippi. Just not from Nintendo themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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