Greatoneshere Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 9 hours ago, heydude93 said: Could be wrong but movies like these tend to be made for anyone who needs to see them more than those who want to. Nobody in their right mind wants to watch a Heneke, Noe or Solondz film, but they're made for resensitization, challenging viewers into watching something that might be a service in the end (character studies of psychopaths if nothing else lets you spot them more effectively), or delving into a very serious subject in an appropriately grim way. Some movies like Kids and Badlands aren't even over-the-top gruesome in what they show, but still hit on a deep level because of how real what's being shown feels. Even though they're not entertaining (like the "rollercoaster films" as Scorsese might say), they can be important imho Kids is such a great film, but I very recently tried to show my wife it and she couldn't get through it for this very reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 18 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: Kids is such a great film, but I very recently tried to show my wife it and she couldn't get through it for this very reason. Yep lol. Like with most of the movies on that list, one watch is usually more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 On 3/7/2021 at 11:50 PM, heydude93 said: Nobody in their right mind wants to watch a Heneke, Noe or Solondz film hey, i did want to watch CLIMAX and I thought it was really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 hours ago, johnny said: hey, i did want to watch CLIMAX and I thought it was really good. That’s the one Noe film I’ve seen. I was expecting weird/trippy, not nightmare-inducing. That thing messed with me, but I also couldn’t look away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 On 3/6/2021 at 10:05 PM, skillzdadirecta said: I'll never know Also, Martyrs was one of the most pointlessly vile films I've ever seen. The DVD I saw had what amounted to an apology from the director before the film started. I've seen folks try to defend that film but it really is just torture porn masquerading as "art". I think we might've talked about it on here before but I wholeheartedly agree and I've seen a lot of fucked up movies. One of the few films I've legitimately gotten fully enraged by outside of anything made by, or featuring, Vincent Gallo. I hate to put motives on directors but everything about the movie absolutely screams "I am intellectual, you don't understand this ART". And again, I like some downright nasty, hateful movies but somehow this one really pushed my buttons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 8 hours ago, johnny said: hey, i did want to watch CLIMAX and I thought it was really good. Never saw it. 5 hours ago, Bloodporne said: One of the few films I've legitimately gotten fully enraged by outside of anything made by, or featuring, Vincent Gallo... It's almost like he's using a performative masculinity shtick to satirize a certain target/mentality. Edgelord persona aside, apparently the real Gallo's mild-mannered and shy, but that's all I know of his personal life. Bit of trivia: he came up in the art world with Jean-Michel Basquiat and Julian Schnabel, has collab'd with Warhol in galleries, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 5 hours ago, johnny said: hey, i did want to watch CLIMAX and I thought it was really good. 2 hours ago, TheLeon said: That’s the one Noe film I’ve seen. I was expecting weird/trippy, not nightmare-inducing. That thing messed with me, but I also couldn’t look away. To be fair, Climax's first 45 minutes are beautiful and celebratory. Then it goes into nightmare inducing. I usually show people the first 45 minutes and then stop it. I love the whole film, however. It truly is a horror movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 15 hours ago, heydude93 said: It's almost like he's using a performative masculinity shtick to satirize a certain target/mentality. Edgelord persona aside, apparently the real Gallo's mild-mannered and shy, but that's all I know of his personal life. Bit of trivia: he came up in the art world with Jean-Michel Basquiat and Julian Schnabel, has collab'd with Warhol in galleries, etc. I thought his movies were utter dog shit to begin with, then read Christina Ricci and Chloe Sevigny's comments on him on top of it and I'm good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Read the list last night and I've seen a surprising amount of these. The only Noe film I've seen is Irreversible and while I thought it was incredibly well done and one of those 'must see it once' movies if you're into weird cinema, I'm good not checking out any of his other stuff really. And like others have said, Come And See is brilliant and probably one of the heaviest films made. I had a really hard time sitting through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: The only Noe film I've seen is Irreversible and while I thought it was incredibly well done and one of those 'must see it once' movies if you're into weird cinema, I'm good not checking out any of his other stuff really. I've seen his first 3 movies (I Stand Alone, Irreversible and Enter the Void) I don't remember much about I Stand Alone but Enter the Void I don't think is a disturbing movie, just kind of like a psychedelic type of movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 6 hours ago, Bloodporne said: I thought his movies were utter dog shit to begin with, then read Christina Ricci and Chloe Sevigny's comments on him on top of it and I'm good. Did Ricci's most recent comments say despite his method acting on '66 it was a fun experience overall and the film was worth making? But I definitely remember she had a more negative impression in interviews near the release window of the film. Haven't read Sevigny's account of him, nor have I seen The Brown Bunny. Reviews confirm it lacks the dialogue and style that made '66 watchable. The press battle between Gallo and Ebert was entertaining though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Bloodporne said: Read the list last night and I've seen a surprising amount of these. The only Noe film I've seen is Irreversible and while I thought it was incredibly well done and one of those 'must see it once' movies if you're into weird cinema, I'm good not checking out any of his other stuff really. And like others have said, Come And See is brilliant and probably one of the heaviest films made. I had a really hard time sitting through it. watch Climax!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 53 minutes ago, heydude93 said: Did Ricci's most recent comments say despite his method acting on '66 it was a fun experience overall and the film was worth making? But I definitely remember she had a more negative impression in interviews near the release window of the film. Haven't read Sevigny's account of him, nor have I seen The Brown Bunny. Reviews confirm it lacks the dialogue and style that made '66 watchable. The press battle between Gallo and Ebert was entertaining though. I mean yeah, the highlight of his career was Ebert's sick burn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I saw Climax at Fantastic Fest as the midnight screening after 12 hours of movie watching. Besides actually being on drugs, that’s probably the most appropriate way to watch that film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjomesphat Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I've seen maybe a quarter of those? I know of most of them but have decided long ago I have no interest in watching. Watching a trailer of Guinea Pig 2 in college was more than enough for me. Stuff like A Serbian Film though almost becomes a parody. Like it's so serious and full of itself that it's going to shock you like no other, it actually becomes cheesy and a bore to watch. Martyrs on the other hand, that scarred me for life, and pretty much turned me off of extreme cinema. Looking at this list now, there's a lot I would have immediately jumped on 10 years ago, but I just don't have it in me anymore. Funny story, when Netflix streaming first came out, they had the movie Slaughtered Vomit Dolls on there. I just found that so bizarre since it's basically just exploitation and gore. It was removed pretty quickly though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I've seen like 6 of these which is at least 3 too many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitgod Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Hmm, only seen 2 of the top 5. I have a copy of Audition, that was one of my rare blind buys. Honestly thought it was pretty meh. Eh, looks like I'm 5 out of Top 10. Eraserhead has always been #1 for me. I've seen Serbian Film more times than Eraserhead. Though I'd probably watch it again before Requiem for a Dream, because Requiem is dead boring. Except for the very last scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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