CitizenVectron Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 http://en.rfi.fr/contenu/20190917-earth-warm-more-quickly-new-climate-models-show Quote Greenhouse gases thrust into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels are warming Earth's surface more quickly than previously understood, according to new climate models set to replace those used in current UN projections, scientists said Tuesday. By 2100, average temperatures could rise 6.5 to 7.0 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels if carbon emissions continue unabated, separate models from two leading research centres in France showed. That is up to two degrees higher than the equivalent scenario in the Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Change's (IPCC) 2014 benchmark 5th Assessment Report. The new calculations also suggest the Paris Agreement goals of capping global warming at "well below" two degrees, and 1.5C if possible, will be harder to reach, the scientists said. "With our two models, we see that the scenario known as SSP1 2.6 -- which normally allows us to stay under 2C -- doesn't quite get us there," Olivier Boucher, head of the Institute Pierre Simon Laplace Climate Modelling Centre in Paris, told AFP. With barely one degree Celsius of warming so far, the world is already coping with increasingly deadly heat waves, droughts, floods and tropical cyclones made more destructive by rising seas. A core finding of the new models is that increased levels of CO2 in the atmosphere will warm Earth's surface more easily than earlier calculations had suggested. If confirmed, this higher "equilibrium climate sensitivity", or ECS, means humanity's carbon budget -- our total emissions allowance -- is likely to shrink. The French models are among the first to be released, but others developed independently have come to the same unsettling conclusion, Boucher confirmed. "The most respected ones -- from the United States, and Britain's Met Office -- also show a higher ECS" than the previous generation of models, he said. This is bad news for fight against global warming, which continues to face strong political headwinds and institutional inertia despite a rapid crescendo of public awareness and concern. Nightmare scenarios coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 But it snowed earlier this winter! Checkmate libcucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Cool cool cool cool cool cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I can't hardly stand the heat waves I've experienced this summer. I do not want this to continue. I was talking with a coworker last night because the AC went out at the office and made us miserable in a week of 95+ degree days. Things can't keep going like this. Shit will start to break down. I think climate refugees are going to be a thing and cities in the north (and global south) are going to be seeing an influx of "gentrifiers" trying to escape the heat and weather changes and the bad shit that goes along with it. Because the people with the means to move will be the ones to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, CayceG said: I can't hardly stand the heat waves I've experienced this summer. I do not want this to continue. I was talking with a coworker last night because the AC went out at the office and made us miserable in a week of 95+ degree days. Things can't keep going like this. Shit will start to break down. I think climate refugees are going to be a thing and cities in the north (and global south) are going to be seeing an influx of "gentrifiers" trying to escape the heat and weather changes and the bad shit that goes along with it. Because the people with the means to move will be the ones to do it. Climate refugees are ALREADY a thing! The Central Americans at the southern border and the North Africans heading to Europe is largely the result of climate change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Climate refugees are ALREADY a thing! The Central Americans at the southern border and the North Africans heading to Europe is largely the result of climate change. With Central Americans I thought it was more our war on drugs fucking up their countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Climate refugees are ALREADY a thing! The Central Americans at the southern border and the North Africans heading to Europe is largely the result of climate change. “Largely” is rather questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 When I read stuff like this it makes me frightened to have a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: “Largely” is rather questionable. How about "not insignificant"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 A very non-insignificant amount of the start of the Syrian civil war was based on drought (though made worse by government ag policy back in the 60s/70s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Like from a global perspective that sucks on the other hand it seems like our typical growing season has already increased by a couple weeks so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: Like from a global perspective that sucks on the other hand it seems like our typical growing season has already increased by a couple weeks so This is another bad take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Idk. the world is probably doomed but I’ll likely benefit from the chaos seems less like a bad take and more like accepting reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Longer growing season vs more wet/dry extremes, flooding, and wildfires and sea level rise, not to mention increased possibility for armed conflict along the artic but yes it's a win for Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 9 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Longer growing season vs more wet/dry extremes, flooding, and wildfires and sea level rise, not to mention increased possibility for armed conflict along the artic but yes it's a win for Canada. It may not be good for Canada, it’ll be good for me tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Trump admin ignored its own evidence of climate change's impact on migration from Central America Quote Research compiled one year ago by Customs and Border Protection pointed to an overwhelming factor driving record-setting migration to the U.S. from Guatemala: Crop shortages were leaving rural Guatemalans, especially in the country's western highlands, in extreme poverty and starving. @Jason @sblfilms @b_m_b_m_b_m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 47 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Trump admin ignored its own evidence of climate change's impact on migration from Central America @Jason @sblfilms @b_m_b_m_b_m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, SFLUFAN said: Trump admin ignored its own evidence of climate change's impact on migration from Central America @Jason @sblfilms @b_m_b_m_b_m It’s a factor, I only challenged the idea that is was a factor that rises to the level of “largely” the cause. But this is good info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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