AbsolutSurgen Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Intel Core i9-9900KS ‘5 GHz All Core Boost’ Flagship Mainstream CPU Available in October – Claiming Clock Speed Leadership By Delivering Advertised Boost Clocks Quote New special edition desktop gaming processor: Intel previewed the 9th Gen Intel Core i9-9900KS special edition processor, the first to feature all 8 cores running at a turbo frequency of 5.0 GHz, making the world’s best gaming desktop processor even better. Intel also showcased how the company is optimizing ultimate real-world performance on the most popular games running on Intel processors with both hardware and software innovations. Through the years, Intel has optimized hundreds of games by working with hundreds of thousands game developers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Looks like Intel really wants to stick to AMD's current boost clock issues. The problem is, for mainstream users, its no longer about who has the speed crown, but rather who has solid enough chips at good prices. This heavily bind'd crop of i9-9900Ks is nice, but won't really move the needle much at all. Its really just a way to say "we have the crown!" coming into the holiday season. Next year, we will hopefully see something actually worth upgrading to, instead of this PR event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 This is just desperation. I look forward to my zen 2 build in the near future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 We ever gonna move beyond this 5GHz threshold? I feel like, overclocking included, we've been here foreeeever. And games still don't seem to utilize multiple cores as well as they do raw speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Xbob42 said: We ever gonna move beyond this 5GHz threshold? I feel like, overclocking included, we've been here foreeeever. And games still don't seem to utilize multiple cores as well as they do raw speed. I wish, but until we can control temperatures better above the 5Ghz mark then it won’t happen. It’s the nature of the material’s thermal conductivity, so I suppose new material might reduce its profiles, but we aren’t there yet. The good news is that now that next gen consoles will have actual CPUs and not a calculator CPU, we should see much better usage of multicores in games going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 As long as operations/performance per mhz/ghz continues to increase, is there even a reason to exceed 5ghz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: As long as operations/performance per mhz/ghz continues to increase, is there even a reason to exceed 5ghz? Right, as long a IPCs continue to rise we are good. Really, we are mostly hamstrung by the GPU in most instances, especially if you game in resolutions above 1080P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Memory bandwidth and latency also becomes important with increased speed and core counts. Zen 2 gets a huge boost with DDR 4000+ or tight timings. https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock I'm sure this 5 ghz chip needs fast memory too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said: Memory bandwidth and latency also becomes important with increased speed and core counts. Zen 2 gets a huge boost with DDR 4000+ or tight timings. https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock I'm sure this 5 ghz chip needs fast memory too. Intel CPUs have shown to have fairly consistent performance whether ram speed is 2133mhz or 4000mhz (at least in gaming situations, unsure about others). AMD’s Ryzen architecture has always been very dependent on the speed and latency of system ram, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 On 9/8/2019 at 11:45 PM, Xbob42 said: We ever gonna move beyond this 5GHz threshold? I feel like, overclocking included, we've been here foreeeever. And games still don't seem to utilize multiple cores as well as they do raw speed. Intel has to figure out 7nm (or better) fabrication... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 They are gonna be selling their new X series "cheap". Like 18c/36t for 979 cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rbk_3 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 On 9/8/2019 at 11:45 PM, Xbob42 said: We ever gonna move beyond this 5GHz threshold? I feel like, overclocking included, we've been here foreeeever. And games still don't seem to utilize multiple cores as well as they do raw speed. I know it is only 6 cores, but my 9600k runs stable at 5.2ghz at 1.31V. I kind of want to sell it and upgrade to a 9900K to future proof myself with out needing to get a new board in the future, but I will likely be going backwards in terms of core clocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 I thought some i5's could clock above 5 ghz because of the lower thermal load due to the lack of hyper-threading. Is this the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 On 9/9/2019 at 1:08 PM, Spork3245 said: Intel CPUs have shown to have fairly consistent performance whether ram speed is 2133mhz or 4000mhz (at least in gaming situations, unsure about others). AMD’s Ryzen architecture has always been very dependent on the speed and latency of system ram, however. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-zen-2-memory-performance-scaling-benchmark/5.html https://www.techspot.com/review/1891-ryzen-memory-performance-scaling/ It’s around a 7% average difference between 2133 to the top speed at 1080p with a 2080ti. I think people exaggerate Ryzen’s sensitivity to slower memory too much. If you get a 3000-3200 kit, you’re good. If you have a high mid range gpu or run 1440/4K, it matters even less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 10/3/2019 at 12:03 PM, Rbk_3 said: I know it is only 6 cores, but my 9600k runs stable at 5.2ghz at 1.31V. I kind of want to sell it and upgrade to a 9900K to future proof myself with out needing to get a new board in the future, but I will likely be going backwards in terms of core clocks. Better off upgrading only when you are dissatisfied with current performance. 22 hours ago, Massdriver said: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-zen-2-memory-performance-scaling-benchmark/5.html https://www.techspot.com/review/1891-ryzen-memory-performance-scaling/ It’s around a 7% average difference between 2133 to the top speed at 1080p with a 2080ti. I think people exaggerate Ryzen’s sensitivity to slower memory too much. If you get a 3000-3200 kit, you’re good. If you have a high mid range gpu or run 1440/4K, it matters even less. The Techspot article shows a pretty good 15% advantage from the slowest to fastest memory in games, when not GPU-bound. And I'll throw this article into the mix: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock Summary: Basically, if you don't want to manually tune timings of your memory (like what Techspot did) then make sure the kit you buy has been tested by your motherboard manufacturer. Also clocking the Infinity Fabric higher will get nice gains. Also, obviously, none of this really matters at 4k right now. Every GPU will struggle to feed the CPU at that resolution. But me, personally, I like to have my cake and eat it too. I'll play my single player games maxed out, but any multiplayer game I will tweak to get maximum framerates - as close to 144 hz as possible. And I think I might take the plunge and get a 240 Hz monitor as a secondary, dedicated, online First Person Shooter display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 God my coworker wants to make a PC for music creation and the processors he is looking to get have me salivating. I am attempting to resist since nothing would offer a worthwild upgrade beyond maybe this i9-9900KS combo'ed with water cooling to OC it as far as it can go. Maybe I might mess around with the voltage a bit on my I7 6700k. I can't fet past 4.3. It won't even POST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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