Hey let's make it more difficult for children born overseas of two American citizens to become citizens. Even if the parents are a Troop or government employee

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

 

We love the troops don't we folks?

[Jason]

Service guarantees citizenship getting fucked in the ass.

[osxmatt]

I feel like I need an example to truly grasp the context of this.

 

Like, my mother-in-law was born during the 60s in Okinawa, Japan on a military base. Under this rule, she wouldn't be a US citizen?

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

2 minutes ago, osxmatt said:

I feel like I need an example to truly grasp the context of this.

 

Like, my mother-in-law was born during the 60s in Okinawa, Japan on a military base. Under this rule, she wouldn't be a US citizen?

She could still be, it depends on the exact details. Or her parents might have had to just through hoops for her citizenship.

[osxmatt]

2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

She could still be, it depends on the exact details. Or her parents might have had to just through hoops for her citizenship.

 

Her father was stationed there in the military, and her mother lived on base with him.

 

I think they moved back when my MiL was 2-3 years old.

[Jwheel86]

This is about McCain, isn't it. 

[Firewithin]

why would anybody want to join the military here?

 

except for getting to shoot brown people i guess

[Jason]

 

[RedSoxFan9]

we needed this 83 years ago

[Firewithin]

can we make this retroactive and deport boomers?

[Guest]

Apparently this policy update meant something far narrower than originally reported. Seems more like general incompetence in the explanation of what the policy update did.

[skillzdadirecta]

16 hours ago, osxmatt said:

I feel like I need an example to truly grasp the context of this.

 

Like, my mother-in-law was born during the 60s in Okinawa, Japan on a military base. Under this rule, she wouldn't be a US citizen?

Nope and neither would John McCain... he was born on a military base in Panama I think.

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Nope and neither would John McCain... he was born on a military base in Panama I think.

The policy update wouldn’t affect either of these cases. It’s a very narrow set of situations where automatic citizenship wouldn’t be granted. I think DoD said it was 100 or so cases annually.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

25 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

Apparently this policy update meant something far narrower than originally reported. Seems more like general incompetence in the explanation of what the policy update did.

What a wholly unexpected turn of events

[GoldenTongue]

31 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

Apparently this policy update meant something far narrower than originally reported. Seems more like general incompetence in the explanation of what the policy update did.

Apologies for the laziness, but is the incompetence in the drafting of the 8/28 Policy Alert, or in how the verbiage of the policy change (which might have significantly broader implications than originally intended)?

[Firewithin]

i dont think they could explain in literal terms that, if you born white your good but if you born any other shade whoops sorry

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, GoldenTongue said:

Apologies for the laziness, but is the incompetence in the drafting of the 8/28 Policy Alert, or in how the verbiage of the policy change (which might have significantly broader implications than originally intended)?

The policy alert itself is lacking in clarity which lead to confusion over what exactly was being addressed. The actual change is more clear. But it shouldn’t take a genius to see how the change could be misunderstood removed from the context.

[Anathema-]

John McCain, fwiw, was born in the Panama Canal Zone which was (at the time) a U.S. territory.