Air_Delivery Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, CastletonSnob said: How do we neutralize Texas? 1) Use the Fed to lawsuit them to death. 2) Lock up other actual swing states by remaking the courts to kill gerrymandering. The main thing that keeps the GOP in power is the courts which in turn allows highly biased maps. The GOP is so entrenched in Texas I don't see anything changing with them for a very long time, even if they somehow manage to elect a dem governor/lt governor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastletonSnob Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Air_Delivery said: 1) Use the Fed to lawsuit them to death. 2) Lock up other actual swing states by remaking the courts to kill gerrymandering. The main thing that keeps the GOP in power is the courts which in turn allows highly biased maps. The GOP is so entrenched in Texas I don't see anything changing with them for a very long time, even if they somehow manage to elect a dem governor/lt governor. A couple of seats in Alabama became tossups after the Fed forced them to redraw the map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 8/10/2023 at 8:15 AM, CastletonSnob said: I've heard people say to wait until the 2030s or 2040s. Between climate change and Republicans going all-in on fascism, we might not have that long to wait. Reminder that Texas is nowhere near as red as Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, North Dakota, Kentucky, or West Virginia, which have all elected a Democrat to statewide office. Dude, your fantasy of turning Texas Blue is just that, a fantasy. You ask this over and over, and people’s response doesn’t change. Texas IS a red state. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastletonSnob Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Dude, your fantasy of turning Texas Blue is just that, a fantasy. You ask this over and over, and people’s response doesn’t change. Texas IS a red state. It's not as red as those states. Nobody thought Georgia would flip blue, but it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 minute ago, CastletonSnob said: It's not as red as those states. Nobody thought Georgia would flip blue, but it did. Goergia was a very specific case of awful candidates. Same as PA, a potato could have beaten Oz, but if GOP hadn’t run an out of touch fool who humiliated himself multiple times Fetterman would have probably been destroyed. Goergia was another case of awful candidates. A brain dead, pathological liar came extremely close to winning against Warnock. Texas isn’t full of bumbling fools, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastletonSnob Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Goergia was a very specific case of awful candidates. Same as PA, a potato could have beaten Oz, but if GOP hadn’t run an out of touch fool who humiliated himself multiple times Fetterman would have probably been destroyed. Goergia was another case of awful candidates. A brain dead, pathological liar came extremely close to winning against Warnock. Texas isn’t full of bumbling fools, you’re comparing apples to oranges. Do you think Warnock would have lost comfortably to a slightly better candidate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, CastletonSnob said: Do you think Warnock would have lost comfortably to a slightly better candidate? Yes. It’s not even a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BloodyHell said: Yes. It’s not even a question. lol lmao "this hypothetical scenario that never happened and the conditions which caused it to happen cannot be replicated or created, but there's no question as to what would happen in an alternative universe where republicans didn't suck shit" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 hours ago, CastletonSnob said: It's not as red as those states. Nobody thought Georgia would flip blue, but it did. Georgia has a significantly higher Black population than Texas; it has and has a slightly higher educational attainment (which makes a difference at the margins); Georgia also has far, far fewer 'swingy' Hispanic voters and despite a lower percent of the population living in an urban area because a higher proportion of those rural voters are Black. Being a slightly smaller state, population wise, also helps to a certain degree it's really that simple to understand at a high level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastletonSnob Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Georgia has a significantly higher Black population than Texas; it has and has a slightly higher educational attainment (which makes a difference at the margins); Georgia also has far, far fewer 'swingy' Hispanic voters and despite a lower percent of the population living in an urban area because a higher proportion of those rural voters are Black. Being a slightly smaller state, population wise, also helps to a certain degree it's really that simple to understand at a high level Texas actually has the highest Black population. Black Population by State 2023 - Wisevoter WISEVOTER.COM The black population in the United States plays a significant role in shaping the country’s culture, history, and social fabric. According to the latest data, Texas holds the highest ranking in terms of black population, with approximately 3.55 million black residents. Following closely behind are Georgia and Florida, with around 3.32 million and 3.25 million […] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 minute ago, CastletonSnob said: Texas actually has the highest Black population. Black Population by State 2023 - Wisevoter WISEVOTER.COM The black population in the United States plays a significant role in shaping the country’s culture, history, and social fabric. According to the latest data, Texas holds the highest ranking in terms of black population, with approximately 3.55 million black residents. Following closely behind are Georgia and Florida, with around 3.32 million and 3.25 million […] my guy have you ever heard of percentages ~11% in Texas vs ~30% in Georgia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, CastletonSnob said: Texas actually has the highest Black population. Black Population by State 2023 - Wisevoter WISEVOTER.COM The black population in the United States plays a significant role in shaping the country’s culture, history, and social fabric. According to the latest data, Texas holds the highest... Percentages, brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Democrats will need to nominate a gun. No, I don't mean a pro-Second Amendment candidate. I mean an actual firearm, preferably a semi-automatic of some sort that uses at least 5.56mm rounds (preferably 7.62mm) and goes by the name of "Dusty". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Democrats will need to nominate a gun. No, I don't mean a pro-Second Amendment candidate. I mean an actual firearm, preferably a semi-automatic of some sort that uses at least 5.56mm rounds (preferably 7.62mm) and goes by the name of "Dusty". You have opened Pandora's Box. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upotte!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 46 minutes ago, ThreePi said: You have opened Pandora's Box. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upotte!! At this very moment, mere words fail to articulate just how so very much I wish more than two of them were used on Japan. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 23 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Three of those states have a tradition of voting for dems that has waned severely as of late (and the most recent elected dems there share their fathers or family name, and aren’t all that progressive anyway) and in the 5 hours ago, BloodyHell said: Goergia was a very specific case of awful candidates. Same as PA, a potato could have beaten Oz, but if GOP hadn’t run an out of touch fool who humiliated himself multiple times Fetterman would have probably been destroyed. Goergia was another case of awful candidates. A brain dead, pathological liar came extremely close to winning against Warnock. Texas isn’t full of bumbling fools, you’re comparing apples to oranges. 4 hours ago, BloodyHell said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I don’t know how to remove quotes on a phone so fuck it that’s what I did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastletonSnob Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 In other words, A Democrat won in the states I listed because of how bad the Republican was, not because of how good the Democrat was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 5 hours ago, BloodyHell said: Same as PA, a potato could have beaten Oz, but if GOP hadn’t run an out of touch fool who humiliated himself multiple times Fetterman would have probably been destroyed. 4 hours ago, BloodyHell said: Yes. It’s not even a question. You are so full of gdamn shit. Just now, CastletonSnob said: In other words, A Democrat won in the states I listed because of how bad the Republican was, not because of how good the Democrat was? See above. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Remember guys, whatever BloodyHell says is fact! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 In fact, Dusty the Democratic Firearm Candidate should be packing its own open-carry sidearm at all times! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 hours ago, SaysWho? said: I don’t know what I did to earn the ire of say’s who but I regret it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastletonSnob Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 Texas's suburbs are getting bluer. Collin County, a suburb of Dallas, went from going 19.5 points to Abbott in 2018 to only 10.1 points in 2022, a 9.4 point decrease. Abbott won Fort Bend County, a suburb of Houston, by .2 points in 2018. Beto won Fort Bend County by 4.7 points in 2022. Hays County, a suburb of Austin, went to Valdez by 2 points in 2018. It went to Beto by 10.8 points in 2022. The idea that Texas isn't trending blue is frankly, ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Suburbs getting bluer is common across the country, the rurals got a lot redder though, which is why the GOP hasn't gotten wiped out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, CastletonSnob said: Texas's suburbs are getting bluer. Collin County, a suburb of Dallas, went from going 19.5 points to Abbott in 2018 to only 10.1 points in 2022, a 9.4 point decrease. Abbott won Fort Bend County, a suburb of Houston, by .2 points in 2018. Beto won Fort Bend County by 4.7 points in 2022. Hays County, a suburb of Austin, went to Valdez by 2 points in 2018. It went to Beto by 10.8 points in 2022. The idea that Texas isn't trending blue is frankly, ludicrous. tbh, you’re right. Many here are correct as to why it’s not competitive yet, but the idea that it’s a fairy tale dream is based on nothing — there’s clearly been a shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastletonSnob Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 11 hours ago, SaysWho? said: tbh, you’re right. Many here are correct as to why it’s not competitive yet, but the idea that it’s a fairy tale dream is based on nothing — there’s clearly been a shift. I mean, I'm not saying that Texas turning blue is just around the corner. I'm just saying that the trends favor Democrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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