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3 hours ago, Fizzzzle said:

"we don't have the money to do it" isn't a great argument. It costs society far more to keep people in and out of jails and prisons their whole lives than it would to, like, offer college education to inmates. It costs $25-30k/year to incarcerate people. Investing in making sure that they *don't* keep getting incarcerated is just that... an investment.

 

Getting people to pass legislation that would actually do stuff like that is the hard part because people only want to see punishment and don't want their tax dollars wasted on criminals.

Norway spends about $90k per year per prisoner - about triple the US.

3 hours ago, SimpleG said:

Sounds like we should raise taxes on Oil and Gas and use it for a proper system to deal with inmates and fix our current fucked up system. 

Where do I sign?

Norway has  the largest Sovereign wealth funds in the world.  Their GDP is higher than the US because of their Oil and Gas.

2 hours ago, sblfilms said:


Not to get too into the weeds of this tangent as comparing a nation like Norway to the United States when it comes to crime is…unproductive.

 

But to achieve what Norway has in regards to oil and gas you can’t just tax more, you have to nationalize the resource as they did back in the 60s. I know @Commissar SFLUFANis on board with that :p 

Even if the US were to do that, it wouldn't exceed Norway (on a per capita basis at least).

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There are places in the US where it already costs $70k/year per inmate. We're really talking about peanuts to make sure that the recidivism goes from 80% to 20%. If 3 times as many felons don't go back to prison, we're breaking even, if not more than that, plus the benefit of a smaller prison population having a smaller drain in the economy.

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