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SuperSpreader Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: ‘They were fooled by Putin’: Chinese historians speak out against Russian invasion | China | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM An open letter written by five historians denounced the war. They hope to persuade Beijing to make their stance clearer Fooled hah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 ‘I haven’t told my granny’: Ukraine’s student molotov cocktail-makers | Ukraine | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Civilian volunteers have come forward in large numbers to help the war effort against the Russian invasion Quote Until this week Daniel Mediakovskyi was a history student in the Ukrainian city of Lviv. Since Sunday, however, he has been sticking rubber bands and plastic tops on to home-made bombs. “It’s practical history. It’s time for this right now,” he explained, loading another molotov cocktail into a crate. Around him, about a dozen students and young creative professionals stood around a makeshift table. All wore masks and washing-up gloves. Each had a role in a busy production line. The basement bomb factory smelled strongly of petrol and paint remover – two molotov ingredients, along with polystyrene and silver dust. Mediakovskyi – who is 20 – said his mother had woken him early last Thursday to tell him Russia had invaded Ukraine. “I knew it was going to start. My hands started shaking,” he said. After spending a day doom-scrolling on social media, he decided he would try to help. “My parents know I’m volunteering. I haven’t told my granny. She’s worried enough about things already,” he admitted. He acknowledged that a molotov wouldn’t stop the mighty Russian army. But he stressed: “It will break Russian soldiers mentally, and show them they are not welcome here.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 Despite Ukraine's relative successes in the north and east, Russia continues to advance in the south, where the terrain (more open and flat) makes it harder to defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 Animated map showing change over the last 5 days: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Animated map showing change over the last 5 days: There has to be a point where the Ukrainian political leadership will need to make a decision to start making a phased withdrawal to the west, especially for those forces located in the south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Link200 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: He said they’re the indistinguishable not just similar. Pretty big difference! He isn't correct but leaping to it being clear racism is a stretch. That is my point. There is a good chance he is simply ignorant of their differences in general. We don't know which means throwing out labels is premature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Link200 said: He isn't correct but leaping to it being clear racism is a stretch. That is my point. There is a good chance he is simply ignorant of their differences in general. We don't know which means throwing out labels is premature. He’s a Republican therefore he’s racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link200 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: He’s a Republican therefore he’s racist. And that right there is why the label has lost its impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Calling this racist, even when this is clearly not about racism, really dilutes the impact of the accusation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Racism is about power. Repeating Russian propaganda regarding Ukrainians is echoing the same justifications that racists use, even if you could argue it's not per se "race"-ism. Maybe it's a different word but it for sure rhymes. You wouldn't believe it was true without believing in the power structure that's propped up by racism in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Anathema- said: Racism is about power. Repeating Russian propaganda regarding Ukrainians is echoing the same justifications that racists use, even if you could argue it's not per se "race"-ism. Maybe it's a different word but it for sure rhymes. You wouldn't believe it was true without believing in the power structure that's propped up by racism in America. I call it culturism. I'm pretty sure that's not a real word, but it is a better definition of what is going on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I call it culturism. I'm pretty sure that's not a real word, but it is a better definition of what is going on here. It's revanchist nationalism. Maybe not exactly White Power but they're chapters from the same book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 Good news 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 Considering Ukraine keeps putting out videos of their drones taking out armour...yeah, no doink. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Link200 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Anathema- said: It's revanchist nationalism. Maybe not exactly White Power but they're chapters from the same book. Perhaps. I am just calling out a poor use of terms that really makes the left look like idiots. Just like that pig fat thing from earlier. Also not racism. Unless the guy was saying racist stuff in the video the action itself is no more than mental warfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Doing so would be casus belli for actual intervention by Western forces, I'd imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Link200 said: Perhaps. I am just calling out a poor use of terms that really makes the left look like idiots. Just like that pig fat thing from earlier. Also not racism. Unless the guy was saying racist stuff in the video the action itself is no more than mental warfare. Wait, you're saying that rubbing pig fat on bullets intended for Muslims is not racism? Unless I am misunderstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Wait, you're saying that rubbing pig fat on bullets intended for Muslims is not racism? Unless I am misunderstanding. Islam isn't a race. Is it racism when South Park makes fun of Catholics or Mormons? Come on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 lmao We will settle with you peacefully if you give up all your weapons. We promise that we won't invade a second time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Is all the fake news Russian trolls? Maybe the only superiority they have is in creative writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: Islam isn't a race. Is it racism when South Park makes fun of Catholics or Mormons? Come on... The colloquial term of racism has clearly been expanded to include other identifying features besides genetic factors. If someone denied service to people all wearing burkas, the vast majority of people would identify that as racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Putin continuing to make demands in good faith! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Islam isn't a race. Is it racism when South Park makes fun of Catholics or Mormons? Come on... It's all under the umbrella of prejudice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, CitizenVectron said: The colloquial term of racism has clearly been expanded to include other identifying features besides genetic factors. If someone denied service to people all wearing burkas, the vast majority of people would identify that as racism. There is no reason to expand the term colloquially when there are plenty of common terms that already define the behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Too much CRT going on here I'm offended! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link200 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Wait, you're saying that rubbing pig fat on bullets intended for Muslims is not racism? Unless I am misunderstanding. Like @mclumber1 said, Islam is not a race. It is a religion. It is practice by all sorts of races. It also isn't a stretch to assume a majority of soldiers that Syria would send over would be Muslims. The mental warfare with the pig fat could actually save lives on both sides. If Syrians bail out then that is less Syrians and Ukrainians dead. Overall a good thing yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chris- said: There is no reason to expand the term colloquially when there are plenty of common terms that already define the behavior. imo it's the pedophilia/ephebophilia argument. Yes, technically denying service to or harassing people wearing burkas isn't racist, it's another form of discrimination. But in modern parlance the use of the word racist to describe the behaviour would be accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Link200 said: The mental warfare with the pig fat could actually save lives on both sides. If Syrians bail out then that is less Syrians and Ukrainians dead. Overall a good thing yes? That's...not a good argument. It's like saying that denying service to Jews is a town is a good thing if it prevents more Jews from coming to the anti-Semitic town so they won't be harassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link200 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: That's...not a good argument. It's like saying that denying service to Jews is a town is a good thing if it prevents more Jews from coming to the anti-Semitic town so they won't be harassed. Not anywhere close. Last I checked the Jews in your scenario weren't coming into town with guns. This is war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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