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On 11/5/2019 at 5:40 AM, Bloodporne said:

That whole late 80's/early 90's "Erotic Thriller" genre ala:

 

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Basic Instinct

Fatal Attraction 

 

Or Michael Douglas movies I guess...

 

 

 

 

 

I actually miss that genre... the closest thing we've gotten to that in recent years was Gone Girl. I guess internet porn pretty much killed that genre... I actually wrote a script that fits in that mold. No wonder nobody bought it :angry::(

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5 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

 

I actually miss that genre... the closest thing we've gotten to that in recent years was Gone Girl. I guess internet porn pretty much killed that genre... I actually wrote a script that fits in that mold. No wonder nobody bought it :angry::(

That whole genre/era is a guilty pleasure of mine.

 

I'll be your Michael Douglas, you bring your IPhone and that script and we're on!

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5 hours ago, Bloodporne said:

That whole genre/era is a guilty pleasure of mine.

 

I'll be your Michael Douglas, you bring your IPhone and that script and we're on!

Two classics from the 80's in the genre, Body Heat with William Hurt and a young hot Kathleen Turner and Body Double with a young Melanie Griffith. Both great movies. There was also Sea of Love with Al Pacino and Ellen Barkin but that movie wasn't that good :p

 

Plus there's no reason to feel guilty about those movies, they're basically modern versions of Hitchcock's films with more explicit sex. Hitchcock's films had a lot of the same plots and themes but the sex was more implied than shown overtly.

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21 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Two classics from the 80's in the genre, Body Heat with William Hurt and a young hot Kathleen Turner and Body Double with a young Melanie Griffith. Both great movies. There was also Sea of Love with Al Pacino and Ellen Barkin but that movie wasn't that good :p

 

Plus there's no reason to feel guilty about those movies, they're basically modern versions of Hitchcock's films with more explicit sex. Hitchcock's films had a lot of the same plots and themes but the sex was more implied than shown overtly.

What's funny is that I like weird, I like lurid, I like sleazy...yet most of Brian DePalma's movies totally baffle me. Body Double is the prime example. I have NO IDEA what he was even trying to do with that. Is it supposed to be funny? Is it supposed to be a parody of Hitchcock? Is the acting supposed to be the worst shit ever? I just have no idea what to make of that flick or, for example, Dressed To Kill. There are entertaining segments but his movies don't work for me at all. I tried Blow Out the other day and I thought it was equal measures bizarre (in an impenetrable way), stupid and boring...yet gorgeous to look at. 

 

My favorite would be Fatal Attraction I guess, I actually buy her insanity and the visual of her apartment gives it a slight metaphysical undercurrent. And agreed, they are more explicit Hitchcocks (huh huh huh huh).

 

But who am I kidding, I also love Basic Instinct, Verhoeven rules. 

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Just now, Bloodporne said:

What's funny is that I like weird, I like lurid, I like sleazy...yet most of Brian DePalma's movies totally baffle me. Body Double is the prime example. I have NO IDEA what he was even trying to do with that. Is it supposed to be funny? Is it supposed to be a parody of Hitchcock? Is the acting supposed to be the worst shit ever? I just have no idea what to make of that flick or, for example, Dressed To Kill. There are entertaining segments but his movies don't work for me at all. I tried Blow Out the other day and I thought it was equal measures bizarre (in an impenetrable way), stupid and boring...yet gorgeous to look at. 

 

My favorite would be Fatal Attraction I guess, I actually buy her insanity and the visual of her apartment gives it a slight metaphysical undercurrent. And agreed, they are more explicit Hitchcocks (huh huh huh huh).

Lol me and a friend of mine get into arguments about DePalma all of the time... I LOVE the guy but he can't stand him. Body Double IS a send up of Hitchcock in a lot of ways... I think that's pretty clear by the end of the movie. But yeah i suspect he was doing a LOT of coke when he was making his films but in his time, very few directors moved the camera the way he did which was something I always dug watching his films when I was old enough to understand cinematic language.

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31 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Lol me and a friend of mine get into arguments about DePalma all of the time... I LOVE the guy but he can't stand him. Body Double IS a send up of Hitchcock in a lot of ways... I think that's pretty clear by the end of the movie. But yeah i suspect he was doing a LOT of coke when he was making his films but in his time, very few directors moved the camera the way he did which was something I always dug watching his films when I was old enough to understand cinematic language.

That's my issue with those "Hitchcock" DePalma movies. I find them fascinating on a level of cinematography and all, they're beautiful and creative, but I find the actual movies to be borderline nonsensical horse shit. I've seen Dressed To Kill three times, don't ask me why, in the past few years always hoping I'd "get it" and it's just such an utterly terrible movie done so well, it's infuriating haha! I actually rewatched it the second time for how incredibly uncomfortable the ending segment in the nuthouse made me. The way that's shot and the set is unsettling as fuck. 

 

Also...Nancy Allen. 

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1 minute ago, Bloodporne said:

That's my issue with those "Hitchcock" DePalma movies. I find them fascinating on a level of cinematography and all, they're beautiful and creative, but I find the actual movies to be borderline nonsensical horse shit. I've seen Dressed To Kill three times, don't ask me why, in the past few years always hoping I'd "get it" and it's just such an utterly terrible movie done so well, it's infuriating haha! I actually rewatched it the second time for how incredibly uncomfortable the ending segment in the nuthouse made me. The way that's shot and the set is unsettling as fuck. 

 

Also...Nancy Allen. 

What's your thoughts on Snake Eyes with Nicholas Cage?

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19 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

What's your thoughts on Snake Eyes with Nicholas Cage?

Never seen it. The cover looks like a funny train wreck though now that I googled it. I also viciously hate Nicholas Cage minus maybe three or four roles.

 

Edit: I'm putting this on my Prime list, it looks potentially stupidly entertaining. 

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On 11/4/2019 at 11:00 AM, skillzdadirecta said:

The hot girl drunkenly hooking up with the nerd and then falling in love with him because his cocksmanship is off the charts. In the 80's that was a teen movie plot point. Today that's called RAPE.

 

Yeah, I recently watched Sixteen Candles again and it was really weird seeing it in a modern light. It's kind of hard to believe that ever flew.

 

 

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