AbsolutSurgen Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Now that the Covid computer component prices are starting to abate, I'm looking at doing a new PC build. My old 6700k/GTX-1070 will continue to do double duty with the kids. I've put together this computer build as my first "draft" -- planning on pulling the trigger over the next 3 months. PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/PdfcLs CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($379.99 @ Memory Express) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.88 @ Amazon Canada) Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($341.48 @ iSanek) Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($214.99 @ Amazon Canada) Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($399.99 @ Newegg Canada) Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($1119.00 @ Canada Computers) Case: HYTE Y60 ATX Mid Tower Case ($306.99 @ PC-Canada) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G+ 1300 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($268.98 @ Amazon Canada) Monitor: Alienware AW3423DW 34.2" 3440 x 1440 175 Hz Curved Monitor ($1649.99 @ Dell) Total: $4771.29 Hoping to get the D1P braintrust to give me advice. Specific questions: I've been oscillating between the i7-13700KF and i5-13500KF -- This is mostly going to be a gaming rig -- does the 13700 get me any real world benefits? The 790 chipset MB's aren't readily available ATM, do I really lose anything vs. the 790? Last time I bought a ASUS ROG Hero MB, but the prices have increased dramatically over the last few years. Does this ASUS TUF MB make sense, or should I switch to another brand? The Samsung 990 Pro is ~$140 more than a 980 Pro -- am I really gonna see much benefit for the huge price increase? Most cases I was looking at were out of stock everywhere. I don't think I need to spend C$300 on a case, any other suggestions on a good case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dualhunter Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Since you're not getting it right away, change the power supply, ATX 3.0 PSUs seem to have been delayed a bit since they were due by the end of 2022 but they should be out soon. That PSU is overkill for that video card anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, dualhunter said: Since you're not getting it right away, change the power supply, ATX 3.0 PSUs seem to have been delayed a bit since they were due by the end of 2022 but they should be out soon. That PSU is overkill for that video card anyway. Good suggestion. Thank-you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I agree the PSU is overkill for your build, no reason to spend so much and get so much power. On Amazon US right now the two processors you're looking at are nearly identical in price. If you can get them for a similar price, I don't see the harm in stepping up. Certainly the higher clocks will help out in gaming more than the extra cores, but the difference won't be very significant. I personally splurge on storage speeds, but most of that is for photo and video stuff. I suspect you'd never notice the difference in games or much else really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, TwinIon said: I agree the PSU is overkill for your build, no reason to spend so much and get so much power. On Amazon US right now the two processors you're looking at are nearly identical in price. If you can get them for a similar price, I don't see the harm in stepping up. Certainly the higher clocks will help out in gaming more than the extra cores, but the difference won't be very significant. I personally splurge on storage speeds, but most of that is for photo and video stuff. I suspect you'd never notice the difference in games or much else really. I agree it was overkill. Unfortunately due to weird Canadian pricing the EVGA 1300W and 1000W were within $2 of each other -- I'll look at another brand to save some money. I wish I was still in the US -- right now the I can get the i5-13600KF for ~C$140 cheaper. Thanks for the feedback on the SSD -- switching it to a 980 Pro for the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 You could consider saving some money on the case and put it into the or gpu. I would consider the 7800x3d coming out next month. It would likely outperform the selected cpus in general, and in certain types of games, blow away other cpus. AMD also tends to support their sockets longer than Intel, although I don’t think am5 will be as long as 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I don’t think you’d have any noticeable real-world benefits with that 990 Pro vs something like a WD SN850x, a SK Hynix Platinum P41, or even a 980 Pro. You would notice the missing money from your wallet, though. I’d also consider waiting a couple weeks to see when the 7000 CPU series x3D versions will be available. If you’d rather stay with Intel, I don’t think you’d really notice a difference between the 13600 and the 13700 in gaming. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Consider the Alienware AW3423DWF, the Freesync alternative that improves on the Gsync one. The Gsync module doesn't really add any benefit to an OLED display because the pixels offer the same response time regardless of the refresh rate. A Gsync module's main purpose is to fine tune a traditional LCD's pixel response on a dynamic per refresh rate basis to offer the best motion clarity without introducing ghosting artifacts, and it needs to do this because how hard the display pushes the LCD at one specific refresh rate may not actually work very well at a different refresh rate and this can lead to an inconsistent experience when using variable refresh rates. Some cases: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/CrzhP6/lian-li-lancool-205-mesh-c-atx-mid-tower-case-g99oe764cx00am https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/bmstt6/lian-li-lancool-iii-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-3-w https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4cPQzy/lian-li-o11-dynamic-evo-atx-mid-tower-case-pc-o11dew https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/XMhFf7/lian-li-lancool-ii-mesh-c-performance-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-ii-mesh-c-performance-x https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/PWn8TW/corsair-5000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011210-ww https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/FdZ9TW/thermaltake-view-300-mx-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-1p6-00m1wn-00 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, cusideabelincoln said: Consider the Alienware AW3423DWF, the Freesync alternative that improves on the Gsync one. The Gsync module doesn't really add any benefit to an OLED display because the pixels offer the same response time regardless of the refresh rate. A Gsync module's main purpose is to fine tune a traditional LCD's pixel response on a dynamic per refresh rate basis to offer the best motion clarity without introducing ghosting artifacts, and it needs to do this because how hard the display pushes the LCD at one specific refresh rate may not actually work very well at a different refresh rate and this can lead to an inconsistent experience when using variable refresh rates. Some cases: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/CrzhP6/lian-li-lancool-205-mesh-c-atx-mid-tower-case-g99oe764cx00am https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/bmstt6/lian-li-lancool-iii-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-3-w https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4cPQzy/lian-li-o11-dynamic-evo-atx-mid-tower-case-pc-o11dew https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/XMhFf7/lian-li-lancool-ii-mesh-c-performance-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-ii-mesh-c-performance-x https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/PWn8TW/corsair-5000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011210-ww https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/FdZ9TW/thermaltake-view-300-mx-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-1p6-00m1wn-00 I agree on the Alienware advice. Check out the video comparing the two 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 The AW3423DWF was an additional $50 off, plus Dell has a 10% off Monitor coupon ATM in Canada -- Just ordered for C$1,215 plus tax. Thanks for the suggestions @Brian and @cusideabelincoln. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 4:23 AM, Spork3245 said: I don’t think you’d have any noticeable real-world benefits with that 990 Pro vs something like a WD SN850x, a SK Hynix Platinum P41, or even a 980 Pro. You would notice the missing money from your wallet, though. I’d also consider waiting a couple weeks to see when the 7000 CPU series x3D versions will be available. If you’d rather stay with Intel, I don’t think you’d really notice a difference between the 13600 and the 13700 in gaming. I agree. I would try to save some money on the ssd. The new crucial drives could also be an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 My local Canada Computers has a Corsair iCue H150i AIO (refurbished) for $130. The new version comes with the AIO, 3 RGB case fans and their RGB/fan controller -- if it's as advertised, that will be hard to pass up. I'm going to check it out after work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 This is what my current build looks like PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU Intel Core i7-13700KF 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor $509.99 @ Memory Express CPU Cooler Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Purchased For $129.99 Motherboard Asus ROG STRIX Z790-E GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard $692.16 @ Amazon Canada Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory $219.99 @ Amazon Canada Storage Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive Purchased For $224.99 Video Card Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card Purchased For $1629.00 Case HYTE Y40 ATX Mid Tower Case Purchased For $225.00 Power Supply Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For $239.99 Case Fan Corsair iCUE ML RGB ELITE Premium 82.9 CFM 140 mm Fan Purchased For $49.99 Case Fan Corsair iCUE ML RGB ELITE Premium 82.9 CFM 140 mm Fan Purchased For $49.99 Monitor Alienware AW3423DWF 34.2" 3440 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor Purchased For $1215.00 Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $5186.09 Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-13 13:21 EST-0500 I'm not sold on the MB I'm using -- I'm partial to ASUS, because that is the brand that I've historically used. But I'm not 100% sure that I really need a STRIX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Since you have Corsair you should def stick with ASUS since ASUS RGB is controllable with iCue, this way everything will sync without needing to use janky 3rd party software. As to if the Strix is more than you need or not will come down to preference of features, m.2 ports, and sata ports. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Those canadian prices give me anxiety 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Spork3245 said: Since you have Corsair you should def stick with ASUS since ASUS RGB is controllable with iCue, this way everything will sync without needing to use janky 3rd party software. As to if the Strix is more than you need or not will come down to preference of features, m.2 ports, and sata ports. Thanks. I think it may be hard to justify the price increase over a TUF board (or a Z690 STRIX), but keeping the options open for OC, PCIe v5.0 NVMe drives is making me lean in the direction of overspending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Memory speds/overclocking will most likely matter more than CPU overclocking for gaming performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 On 1/13/2023 at 2:00 PM, stepee said: Those canadian prices give me anxiety If you had to live with them, along with the changing exchange rate, it would probably be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: If you had to live with them, along with the changing exchange rate, it would probably be worse. The cities are better in Canada though I bet, mine literally ran over me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, stepee said: The cities are better in Canada though I bet, mine literally ran over me. My quality of life was higher in suburban Detroit than it is in suburban Toronto. Higher wages, lower taxes, significantly cheaper housing, better schools and much lower cost of living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: My quality of life was higher in suburban Detroit than it is in suburban Toronto. Higher wages, lower taxes, significantly cheaper housing, better schools and much lower cost of living. I actually do love my area I’m just having a bad leg day and was making a joke at how a city truck ran me over. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 14, 2023 Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, stepee said: I actually do love my area I’m just having a bad leg day and was making a joke at how a city truck ran me over. :P Hope you’re feeling better soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 I didn't realize how many PCIe lanes 5.0 will require for future GPUs and SSDs. Today's chipsets/MBs don't have enough to be able to "future proof" to use both a x16 GPUs and a x8 SSD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 Parts should all be here by Friday -- build should be Friday night. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Congrats on the new system! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 This is what I'm doing tonight. (Yes that is a stylish parquet floor and brick bar in my 1970s basement.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 Thoughts (my last build was in '16 and was a 6700k and GTX-1070) 1) Current cases really make the build process and cable management so much easier 2) This was my first build not having to run storage off mother board. RIP SATA. It makes everything so much cleaner. 3) RGB fans have far too many cables. 4) Still haven't found a good place to get a Windows key for a price I feel comfortable with. 27 Euro plus 5 Euro in fees feels too pricey for an OEM key. 5) Only external driver I have had to install so far is GeForce Experience. I hope I haven't missed anything. (I didn't install Asus Armoury Crate.) 6) Vertical GPU mounting is the future. On using my rig: 1) Gaming on an Ultrawide Monitor is so much more immersive than a 16:9. Glad I made the decision. 2) No regrets on OLED 3) First rig with no bloatware. Very clean. 4) Amazing how quiet gaming was. (7 case fans seems to allow for really low fan speed.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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