Greatoneshere

You can connect that same nice gaming PC tower to that nice TV and bypass the Xbox entirely and play it from your couch, and then you'll even get the choice of controller or mouse and keyboard depending on the game and all the benefits a PC otherwise gives over consoles. You can always get a second tower if you also want to game on a PC monitor for some reason.

Hmmm - I just use the GeForce Experience program and then just max out all the settings in game and 9/10 times I'm set and good to go and I just play. I don't bother with benchmark tests or anything and I've been fine just downloading games and jumping in on my PC. I'm honestly surprised it dwarfs your time with consoles because for me they are literally the same, no joke. PC boots up fast, Steam or Epic or whatever is ready to go, launch game, turn on controller, good to go. I dunno. I'm not saying you don't get the odd bug as you outlined, but consoles these days function as closed OS computers to a degree and so it's not like they don't require some upkeep themselves, just less, which to me is not worth the trade off elsewhere when you switch to PC from consoles. I don't see how it could for anyone. Like I said, with cross-play needing a PS4 or Xbox is unnecessary, and you can just as easily hook up an Xbox controller or PS4 controller to a PC. If it's for family, as I said, that's a good reason, and doesn't fall under the logic I've outlined. I'm very surprised you've had so much trouble that it would dissuade you from PC gaming, I've never had such issues. I'm saying I'm surprised any serious gamer would mind the upkeep, especially given at least in my experience, it's minimal arguably given the loss of other things (60fps, 4K whatever) when switching to consoles.

Yes, to me they are lazy if they could get a PC and didn't. Without a good reason it just doesn't make sense not to do. My posts are pretty clear. Good reasons not too: will never be able to save up enough. Play with multiple family members on multiple TV's in the house. Something like that. Outside of such reasons, why not do it?

I don't run into any of these problems with either my PC or my Android. Not once. Simple, easy upkeep, no different than what I'd do with maintaining my car or other electronics. I think you have a very outmodded idea of the PC experience. It's very easy and simple and an excellent experience. I wouldn't be saying that I can never go back after switching to a powerful PC a few years ago unless I truly thought so. I'm good with computers but not out of the ordinary for a serious gamer. Anything I know anyone else could easily learn and it's worth it once you do. You may not want the PC experience, but it's still objectively better in gaming terms regardless of what people want out of their personal experiences.

But I don't really spend more time fussing with my PC (after initial setup) than I do with my PS4. I still go through all the options the game provides in game in both instances and I'm rarely spending any real notable amount of time more tinkering on PC than I do playing on console. And "PC requires more time" is a lame excuse to miss out on all the things PC does better. That's my point - if you're a gamer, without a good reason, why do that trade off? It doesn't make sense. I think there is a correct weighing of multiple objective functions because like with anything different things should/do take priority over others. Presumably a "serious gamer" cares more about games variety and selection than initial hardware costs. Presumably a serious gamer cares more about the best graphical and aural experience as can be had in the game, which means a need for the most powerful hardware. Presumably a serious gamer cares more about future proofing their hardware than buying a new console system every few years. I mean, I'd question the priority of a serious gamer who doesn't care about these things. You don't have to care about these things, but they do matter regardless. As I just said . . . I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. If someone is so lazy they prefer the ability for something "to plug in and work" instead of just using a PC which has numerous benefits aside from the fact it can't just "plug in and play" (which, after initial setup, is exactly what a PC does) then they should go do that. Doesn't make the logic I'm pointing out any less true. But nor am I dictating to anyone what they should do. Don't PC game if you don't want to, but without good reason, I believe that decision/choice has logical implications.

Wow, so everyone skipped the part where I said: "if you have a good reason not to do it, like a lack of money or something, then it makes sense". Cool, good job guys, reading comprehension. I said, in the event you don't have a good reason to buy a PC (reasons that have been outlined among users here like lack of money or sharing for the family), then of course you do you the best you can. Because otherwise, why aren't you getting a PC? But please, everyone continue to be reductive and make arguments I'm not making. You know, like saying a person isn't a real filmmaker if they don't use $60,000 cameras. Yeah, because that's the same thing as maximizing your enjoyment/experience of something that one says they are a huge fan of. And no one has even bothered to really break down how my initial logic is wrong, everyone just wants to make straw man arguments it seems.

I totally agree with you and I take your point but to me it's not "I think". The advantages do objectively outweigh the limitations. "Fuss"? "More work"? We're gamers. This is our hobby. That's what I originally meant by "serious gamer" that everyone else seems to have taken defensively because some are apparently insecure towards logic. They're just computers. Learn. If someone isn't willing to put in some work and thinks those kinds of reasons are enough to stop them in this hobby, then yeah, I think that's less enthusiasm. And that's what I'm calling out, lazy hobbyists. Well, I'm giving my opinion, and I'm saying that person is a less of an enthusiast because the reasoning is nutty. They can continue to go do whatever they want to do, but I can still say and think what I do about it. Lazy hobbyists are a thing, and I do think that means less enthusiasm or "less serious". Otherwise wouldn't their reasoning make sense? I'd be doing what they're doing if it was better but I'm not because it isn't.

I'm saying if one is seriously into something, if you can, you get the best. I'm saying the differences are incalculable to me, having switched over a few years ago. The difference in cost is negligible when thinking long term. Even if you own both an XSX and a PS5 you'd be missing out on PC exclusive titles as well as getting less games overall (PC goes back decades in terms of game selection), you can't emulate, and PC's do a lot more than just play games so they have other benefits as well. There's just no reason not to get the best in this kind of situation, and yes, I think it's a mystifying choice to get less than the best if you can get the best. That seems pretty logical to me, and that's all I'm trying to point out. A gamer can have as much enthusiasm as they like, but if they could get a powerhouse PC but instead get an XSX I'd wonder why they're doing that, genuinely. If they can't get a powerhouse PC, for whatever reason, that's understandable, and you do what you can to game then, of course, I think that goes without saying. If someone says they're an audiophile, and they have amazing speakers, and someone else says they're an audiophile, but they have noticeably worse speakers, yeah, I'm going to think the first guy is more serious about his hobby. It's not perfectly analogous because here the difference in price is actually far more negligible than with speakers so it makes even more sense with gaming. And like I said, this is in an example where the second guy could get the speakers the first guy has but just . . . doesn't get them and gets the worse ones. This is not a situation where he can't afford the nicer ones, that's one of the good reasons I was mentioning earlier.

Anyone can do what they want with their money and/or time (I wasn't trying to tell anyone what to do, go buy whatever you like!), but my original logic remains ironclad. That would be like a serious road cyclist (as opposed to "serious gamer") cycling with a mountain bike. Like, yeah, you can do it that way, but why? Either you have a good reason or you're being illogical. You can be illogical, whatever, that's fine, but you are. If you have a good reason, okay, sorry to hear that. I wasn't trying to stir up anything. I feel the same way about the PS5 and Switch, and I said as much in the PS5 thread that the only question to be asked is: "do they have enough exclusives to justify a PS5 purchase for me?" and "will their first party games come to PC eventually anyway so can I just wait and save the money?" Since Sony has begun hinting at that. With XSX, both questions are moot, so the answers are more clearcut. I wasn't even aware of what I was saying could even be considered controversial.

Yeah, so you're saying people are short-sighted. I agree with you and all your reasoning.

Right, I'm saying, long-term, if you're a gamer anyway, you are presumably "all in" and will game for years to come, so a high upfront initial cost is worth it over the alternative of worse gaming with less of a selection of games during all those same years cause you went cheaper in the moment in terms of hardware, long-terrm. And with cross-play becoming more and more of a thing, what your friends are playing on becomes less of a worry. I went PC just a few years ago and not only has my gaming increased but I couldn't imagine going back.

Well, finished the season. An admittedly great, if albeit sort of random in some ways, final season. Ended as it only inevitably could in some ways, and totally random in others. Really enjoyed it overall, though it got repetitious and forgot about its characters to a degree in seasons 2 and 3 for timey-wimey stuff.

I only mean that in that the most games are available on PC. Which is true. If I'm a gamer I'd want the system with by far the most games available to select from, logically speaking. And if everything on one thing is on PC but everything on PC isn't on the other thing why would I get the other thing over PC?

And if you are a serious gamer of any kind, if you're gonna spend $500-600 on an XSX, may as well save and go all in for a powerhouse PC as a onetime purchase and just use that instead.

The irony that it is a movie where cops behave exactly as they shouldn't. I actually enjoyed the film regardless though.

It's not even close, I agree with you. The higher and better production values all around help with that.

Yeah pretty much. To me the theatrical version was nigh unwatchable after the first hour.

I just rewatched it a few months ago to show my wife who'd never seen it. Still good! Though kids may disagree since its old now, but my wife liked it, but she's around my age, so she accepts 90's movies easier more inherently.

If something speaks to you or moves you in some way, it is, in a way, art. Its process of creation, no matter how cynical, is irrelevant. Whether it's "good" art, that's a conversation.

It doesn't make the movie good but it is a good sight better than the theatrical version. Batman still has gatling guns attached to his Batmobile and doesn't have his no-kill rule, Luthor's plot remains nonsensical and the Martha moment is all still in there but it's better.

At least a recap would help, I think, depending on how long it's been since you saw season 1.

I don't think there even is any dissonance like the article suggests. Engaging in violence and then having a message about abhoring violence isn't strange or dissonant to me at all. They are both a commentary on human nature. Though I loved Spec Ops: The Line, a game that also comments on this as the article suggests.

All I can repeat is say that when I played Halo 4, I had little fucking idea what was going on and I followed the Halo mythos up to that point. It sounded like there were forerunners, but then also humans who were super advanced in the past, and then some other shit? There were also TV series and webseries I didn't watch either.

Beat the game yesterday. It was amazing, I loved every minute of what it had to say is, for a game, reaching for some interesting things. It reminded me a lot of the film I Saw the Devil, which I also love. Down to discuss - really was something unique. And the game is between 28-32 hours if you try to do everything like I did.

Edit: My bad, misunderstood the thread. This is a comic.