Keyser_Soze Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Gary Dauberman, James Wan’s Atomic Monster Tackling Live-Action ‘Gargoyles’ for Disney+ (Exclusive) WWW.HOLLYWOODREPORTER.COM The horror kingpins are chiseling away an adaptation of the Walt Disney Television Animation series that aired 1994 to 1997. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 DON'T. FUCK. THIS. UP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Brick said: DON'T. FUCK. THIS. UP. By making it live action, they already have. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 It’s either going to be awful Gargoyle cosplay or use way too much CG. Either way they’re going to film 100% of this show in the Volume. I can’t see how this will be good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: By making it live action, they already have. 40 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: It’s either going to be awful Gargoyle cosplay or use way too much CG. Either way they’re going to film 100% of this show in the Volume. I can’t see how this will be good. These are my concerns as well. Additionally, no Greg Weisman involvement either it sounds like. Also, getting Gary Dauberman to showrun this, the guy who . . . *checks notes* . . . wrote tripe like Annabelle, Annabelle: Creation, Annabelle Come Homes, and The Nun, is a really bad sign. And before someone mentions it, I know he's the third credited screenwriter on It: Chapter One but it's pretty well known that director Andy Muschietti and the studio went with the Chase Palmer & Cary Joji Fukunaga script when Fukunaga was going to direct it. And while I remember Annabelle: Creation being solid, I credit that a lot more to director David F. Sandberg. And yes, It: Chapter Two is all Gary Dauberman (compared to Chapter One) but when you have a good director (Andy Muschietti) and strong source material (Stephen King) it's kind of hard to fuck up and even with that being said everyone feels Chapter Two was a step down from Chapter One (kids vs. adults being one thing, losing better scriptwriters being the other). That is not a resume that inspires confidence. Hopefully the rest of the writers' room they hire are better. A lot will also depend on the directors they get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I never understood the love for this IP. I found the show to be average at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Why they didn’t ask Jordan Peele and see if he still wanted get involved. The man tried to make a movie for years and they went with this guy?!? This better be Avatar quality motion capture shit, or why even bother making the show. I have hopes because I loved this shit as a kid and still do today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Jokes on you guys worried about CG… they’re going old school Clash of the Titans style stop motion! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Jokes on you guys worried about CG… they’re going old school Clash of the Titans style stop motion! Since it's a novelty these days it would be pretty cool. Especially if they made it like Mad God 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 49 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Since it's a novelty these days it would be pretty cool. Especially if they made it like Mad God Agreed but won't make money on a wider scale at all, which this will need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Agreed but won't make money on a wider scale at all, which this will need to. This show is already on Disney+ so how much money on a wider scale is it going to make anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: This show is already on Disney+ so how much money on a wider scale is it going to make anyway? It needs to make money in the eyes of the people that matter, and who knows what metrics they use but I doubt audiences are showing up for stop motion Gargoyles live-action. Willow got so annihilated for not doing well enough it's not even on their platform anymore, I assume because it makes them more money as a tax write off or to sell streaming rights to someone else than keep it. I think you know doing stop motion would automatically kill any possibility of a season 2 unless it's done incredibly well. So while it would be kill, it absolutely would hurt subscriptions, streaming sales, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: It needs to make money in the eyes of the people that matter, and who knows what metrics they use but I doubt audiences are showing up for stop motion Gargoyles live-action. Willow got so annihilated for not doing well enough it's not even on their platform anymore, I assume because it makes them more money as a tax write off or to sell streaming rights to someone else than keep it. I think you know doing stop motion would automatically kill any possibility of a season 2 unless it's done incredibly well. So while it would be kill, it absolutely would hurt subscriptions, streaming sales, whatever. All I'm saying is whether it is live action, animated, or stop motion, Gargoyles only has so much appeal. If this show gets made I don't think people are going to flock to it like a Star Wars show or anything like that. Sure if the show takes off then whatever format they used was the correct choice but if it bombs it still would be cool to think of what a stop motion TV show would look like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: All I'm saying is whether it is live action, animated, or stop motion, Gargoyles only has so much appeal. If this show gets made I don't think people are going to flock to it like a Star Wars show or anything like that. Sure if the show takes off then whatever format they used was the correct choice but if it bombs it still would be cool to think of what a stop motion TV show would look like. Yeah, no one is saying it's on Star Wars' level or anything, just that Disney+ producers aren't going to approve a stop-motion or puppet Gargoyles, as cool as that would be, and yes I imagine it hurts their projections even if the variance isn't as significant as with bigger Disney properties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 9 hours ago, silentbob said: Why they didn’t ask Jordan Peele and see if he still wanted get involved. The man tried to make a movie for years and they went with this guy?!? This better be Avatar quality motion capture shit, or why even bother making the show. I have hopes because I loved this shit as a kid and still do today. Shit I forgot he was interested in making this. Now I'm disappointed they didn't go with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Brick said: Shit I forgot he was interested in making this. Now I'm disappointed they didn't go with him. Disney heard his pitch and they didn't like it (back in 2018) and turned him down straight up. I think they should give him another call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Disney heard his pitch and they didn't like it (back in 2018) and turned him down straight up. I think they should give him another call. Jordan Peele's original pitch: Stop motion animation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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