CastlevaniaNut18 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Christ almighty. It makes me want to bash my head against a wall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Christ almighty. It makes me want to bash my head against a wall. There’s just no reasonable reason anyone should be forced to have a conversation with them unless they are being paid. It definitely feels like doing someone’s task rabbit assignment for free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, stepee said: There’s just no reasonable reason anyone should be forced to have a conversation with them unless they are being paid. It definitely feels like doing someone’s task rabbit assignment for free. And now that he's back, he's fucking everywhere. He's infested every board, except sports. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShader Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, stepee said: Fucking hell whoever originally said that there were no stupid questions needs to answer for this shit. Could you please answers these 50 fucking questions? Jesus christ seriously it’s so transparent and lame. "I'm just asking questions" - the good ol Tucker Carlson maneuver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demut Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Hey, I'm just asking questions though. 17 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: It makes me want to bash my head against a wall. That sounds unhealthy. But you did say mere hours ago how you could solve this ''''''problem'''''' by making use of the ignore function and blocking me. I mean that is what it's there for, right? At this point you're doing this to yourself, it feels like. Also, no, I'm not infesting* every board but the sports one, I don't post in the tabletop board either *Please seriously reconsider using such dehumanizing language, xoxo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShader Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: He talks about it a lot, usually in posts where he's advocating for trans rights and such. It's been a good therapy for him to throw himself into activism. He even acknowledges that years before, though he backed gay rights, he thought the concept of transgender was bullshit. It changed before his son came out and he was a super supportive dad from that point forward. His ex-wife...not so much. It'll be a lifelong pain for him, but I'm glad he's become so involved with the community. This definitely sounds like a healthy way to deal with his loss. There are much less healthy ways to 'drown' your loss, if you catch my meaning. I'll definitely keep him in my thoughts and energy, and I'm glad he's out there fighting the good fight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I wonder if my trans cousin and her wife keep an updated list on places that it would be safe for them to visit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demut Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 ^Well, there is this (tab 'Gender Identity'). (doing it this way now since that's apparently not actually an image but an interactive element) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, Demut said: I fail to understand the author's reasoning in the article concerning how this would criminalize gay parades for example... A fully-clothed male or female impersonator participating in a Pride Parade which takes place on the street (public property) could conceivably be arrested for dancing something as benign as the Macarena in front of minors who could be watching that parade if a law enforcement officer determines that the Macarena represents an "adult-oriented performance" as that determination essentially is in the eye of the beholder. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShader Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: I wonder if my trans cousin and her wife keep an updated list on places that it would be safe for them to visit. They almost certainly do, or at the very least will research before making any travel plans. Every trans person I know is well aware of the risks of travel. It is very sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demut Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: A fully-clothed male or female impersonator participating in a Pride Parade which takes place on the street (public property) could conceivably be arrested for dancing in front of minors who could be watching that parade if a law enforcement officer determines that dance represents an "adult-oriented performance" as that determination essentially is in the eye of the beholder. All law ultimately is but I get your point. However, there's already vague enough "crimes" that they can use for that (e.g. "creating a public disturbance") and the paragraph the bill refers to (§ 39-17-901) does further define what exactly counts as "harmful to minors". Of course they can ignore what is listed there as prerequisites for it to count as such but then again, they can ignore any law if they so choose and no one holds them to account for it. Especially relevant seems this part: "(C) Taken as whole lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific values for minors;" Seems to me normal gay parades would be excluded from counting as adult-oriented entertainment on that basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 hey guys this law that is put into place by these people who specifically want to achieve this thing could be read in a way that means it’s not for this thing that it’s very obviously for hehehehe gee shucks gosh gee willy wonkers 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 It sails over his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShader Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just now, stepee said: hey guys this law that is put into place by these people who specifically want to achieve this thing could be read in a way that means it’s not for this thing that it’s very obviously for hehehehe gee shucks gosh gee willy wonkers But surely, Stepee, these legislators and law enforcement officers that find no literary, artistic, political, or scientific value behind the trans and overall LGBTQ community will change their mind when it comes enforcing this law and magically find literary, artistic, political, and/or scientific value out of people's lives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShader Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: It sails over his head. This is intentional. He's well aware we're right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demut Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Oh, cool, apparently Shader's a telepath now, too. That lad astonishes me every day anew. 6 minutes ago, stepee said: hey guys this law that is put into place by these people who specifically want to achieve this thing could be read in a way that means it’s not for this thing that it’s very obviously for hehehehe gee shucks gosh gee willy wonkers Just pointing out the flaws in the argument in the article. If the rebuttal is "Well, they'll simply ignore existing law and interpret it however they want" then they could already do so even without this amendment. Reminds me of all the hysteria surrounding bill C-16 in Canada. Wake me up once something actually happens on the basis of it IRL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Demut said: Oh, cool, apparently Shader's a telepath now, too. That lad astonishes me every day anew. Just pointing out the flaws in the argument in the article. If the rebuttal is "Well, they'll simply ignore existing law and interpret it however they want" then they could already do so. Reminds me of all the hysteria surrounding bill C-16 in Canada. Wake me up once something actually happens on the basis of it IRL. Who said I was referring to you at all? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demut Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Who said that I said that you were referring to me at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Demut said: Who said that I said that you were referring to me at all? What if I’m rubber and you’re glue and whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks on you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demut Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, stepee said: What if I’m rubber and you’re glue and whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks on you? Then I suppose you'd be a lot denser than I am and also way more repulsive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just now, Demut said: Then I suppose you'd be a lot denser than I am and also way more repulsive. And so by the rules of I’m rubber/you’re glue that means that those traits belong to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 A law (§ 39-17-901) already exists that addresses the performance of "obscenity" in front of minors, so why would this particular law be even necessary to begin with? Why not enforce that pre-existing law rather than create a whole new one unless there is no purpose to the new law other than to single out certain groups that are specifically unmentioned in the pre-existing law? As for when something "actually happens" on the basis of this law in "real life", I'm fairly certain that the "chilling effect" this law will have could leave us speaking in the realm of hypotheticals for quite some time. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 My goodness, a Demut bomb has gone off in this thread. Sticky. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShader Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr.Vic20 said: My goodness, a Demut bomb has gone off in this thread. Sticky. Considering it's trans related, I'm surprised it took this long. I was prepared for it to be much sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demut Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Sorry, Shader, it just didn't happen to be up top in the Unread Content list for me before I'll promise to try to be faster for you from now on 10 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Why not enforce that pre-existing law rather than create a whole new one unless there is no purpose to the new law other than to single out certain groups that are specifically unmentioned in the pre-existing law? Political grandstanding, I imagine, to signal to their electorate (by pretending to be doing something without actually doing something). Why was that anti-lynching bill passed some time back necessary even though it was obviously already illegal to begin with? Same reason, different topic. 10 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: As for when something "actually happens" on the basis of this law in "real life", I'm fairly certain that the "chilling effect" this law will have could leave us speaking in the realm of hypotheticals for quite some time. I hadn't considered that but yeah, we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheShader said: Considering it's trans related, I'm surprised it took this long. I was prepared for it to be much sooner. People should really not answer his questions in a thread like this. We all know he’s asking questions to raise an opportunity to give the standard responses he’s already planning to make. It’s just the usual way of trying to “innocently” bombard the thread with shitty opinions by constantly responding to answers to their never ending series of questions. People who do this same damn shtick are so common they don’t even have unique personalities anymore they just become the same tired act, we had like three others exactly the same last year and I’m sure he won’t be our last. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShader Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, stepee said: People should really not answer his questions in a thread like this. We all know he’s asking questions to raise an opportunity to give the standard responses he’s already planning to make. It’s just the usual way of trying to “innocently” bombard the thread with shitty opinions by constantly responding to answers to their never ending series of questions. People who do this same damn shtick are so common they don’t even have unique personalities anymore they just become the same tired act, we had like three others exactly the same last year and I’m sure he won’t be our last. Agreed wholeheartedly. There's a reason I haven't directly responded to him here, only those responding about him(and even that I'm reluctant to do). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demut Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, stepee said: We all know he’s asking questions to raise an opportunity to give the standard responses he’s already planning to make. My my, yet another mindreader amongst our midst! I concur with your recommendation though: Don't respond to me if you don't have anything of value to add. Good advice, I just wish you adhered to it yourself a bit more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Demut said: My my, yet another mindreader amongst our midst! I concur with your recommendation though: Don't respond to me if you don't have anything of value to add. Good advice, I just wish you adhered to it yourself a bit more often. no u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 He remains an active poster or I do. id rather spend my time with my drag friends than a board who allows this trash to be a voice devaluing their lives. Calls transition mutilation but he remains here. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demut Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, TUFKAK said: He remains an an active poster or I do. Ah, another boycott, eh, let's see how this one turns out. 5 minutes ago, TUFKAK said: [A] voice devaluing their lives [...] Calls transition mutilation but he remains here. Not what I did and nor what I actually said. Besides, this was resolved by SFLUFAN. Hard to abide by rules that aren't mentioned anywhere on this forum but he told me the gist of it now so calm your tits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I left for five years, I’ve no issue doing it again, you’re a fucking bigoted pos and I’ll gladly go back to not having to read your hate speech. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I’ll use pst, despite being in Costa Rica. 2149, 2/25 he’s gone or nuke my profile @Commissar SFLUFAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Yes, all of this is doing absolute wonders for my recently-diagnosed, not-quite-clinical depression for which I have started treatment and is absolutely not contributing to it in the least. Nope, not at all. Stay. Go. Whatever. I have genuinely tried my best, but I'm too old and too tired to muster much effort any more. I'm not looking for sympathy or empathy or understanding, but I wanted to express exactly where I am mentally. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Demut said: Ah, another boycott, eh, let's see how this one turns out. Not what I did and nor what I actually said. Besides, this was resolved by SFLUFAN. Hard to abide by rules that aren't mentioned anywhere on this forum but he told me the gist of it now so calm your tits. Oh, for Christ's sakes, just for once in your posting career: JUST. SHUT. THE. HELL. UP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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