Jason Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 After Supreme Court Lifts Stay, Oklahoma Executes Inmate - The New York Times NYTI.MS The prisoner, John Marion Grant, convulsed and vomited as he was put to death by lethal injection. The court also cleared the way for another execution next month. Quote The Supreme Court on Thursday lifted a stay of execution that a federal appeals court had granted to two Oklahoma death row inmates, clearing the way for the men to be put to death by lethal injection. One of them, John Marion Grant, who was convicted of murdering a prison cafeteria worker in 1998, was executed on Thursday, a few hours after the Supreme Court ruled. Like other executions in the state, this one — the first in six years — did not go smoothly, The Associated Press reported. Mr. Grant, who was strapped to a gurney, convulsed and vomited as the first chemical, a sedative, was administered. After several minutes of this, members of the execution team wiped vomit from his face and neck. The Oklahoma Department of Corrections said the execution was carried out in accordance with protocols and “without complication.” Quote The Supreme Court has been skeptical of challenges to lethal injection protocols and requires inmates to demonstrate that they would be subjected to “a substantial risk of severe pain.” Inmates challenging a protocol must also propose an alternative. “A prisoner must show a feasible and readily implemented alternative method of execution that would significantly reduce a substantial risk of severe pain and that the state has refused to adopt without a legitimate penological reason,” Justice Gorsuch wrote in 2019, summarizing earlier decisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Jesus Christ. Like, it's not hard to kill someone instantly and without pain. I am against the death penalty on principle (and it's a giant stain on the US for still having it), but you can instantly kill someone in a variety of ways. Hell, just have a shotgun to the side of the brain. Or just knock them out with anesthetics and give them too much morphine!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Lethally painful injection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Jesus Christ. Like, it's not hard to kill someone instantly and without pain. I am against the death penalty on principle (and it's a giant stain on the US for still having it), but you can instantly kill someone in a variety of ways. Hell, just have a shotgun to the side of the brain. Or just knock them out with anesthetics and give them too much morphine!!! The problem is that actually licensed anesthesiologists are refusing to administer these drugs, and that's assuming states can actually source the drugs needed. For a while they were making up random concoctions and buying them under fake names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Jesus Christ. Like, it's not hard to kill someone instantly and without pain. I am against the death penalty on principle (and it's a giant stain on the US for still having it), but you can instantly kill someone in a variety of ways. Hell, just have a shotgun to the side of the brain. Or just knock them out with anesthetics and give them too much morphine!!! Even easier: Pump the room full of nitrogen gas. It will displace the oxygen and they will eventually pass out peacefully and without pain, and then die. EDIT: Your body doesn't sense a lack of oxygen, it senses the presence of carbon dioxide, which is why asphyxiation can be traumatic, from what I understand. Removing the oxygen from the space, but keeping nitrogen there will just cause the person to lose consciousness and succumb to lack of oxygen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 "the law is just an abstraction" the justices tell themselves every night knowing they have directly killed people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Utah still has death by firing squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Jesus Christ. Like, it's not hard to kill someone instantly and without pain. I am against the death penalty on principle (and it's a giant stain on the US for still having it), but you can instantly kill someone in a variety of ways. Hell, just have a shotgun to the side of the brain. Or just knock them out with anesthetics and give them too much morphine!!! Shit just use one of those Cow Puncher things from "No Country for Old Men" god's sake! We've figured out how to kill animals quickly and "humanely" but not people? Well I guess it's true... "The Cruelty is The Point". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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