Consumer Technology Samsung officially announces the Note 20, Galaxy Z Fold 2, Galaxy Buds Live, Galaxy Watch 3...and three years of OS updates, backdated to include the S10 and Note 10 lines.

**Jason** · August 5, 2020

The extra year of OS updates, and it backdating to the S10/Note 10, is the thing I'm most excited about from today.

TwinIon · August 5, 2020

I'm interested to see how the very high res cameras fair this year. It seemed like they were very much not worthwhile last year, especially with the autofocus issues. I like the idea of Samsung throwing hardware at a problem others are solving with software, but they have yet to prove it's the right approach.

**GeneticBlueprint** · August 5, 2020

I have a Note 10+ 5G. Not seeing a reason to upgrade here. Not at that price point at least.

**GeneticBlueprint** · August 5, 2020

1 minute ago, BlueAngel said:

120Hz alone is worth the upgrade, couldn't ever go back to a 60Hz display after having my S20 Ultra for 6 months.

Can't miss what you never had :P

Greatoneshere · August 5, 2020

I'm still on a Samsung Galaxy S8+, love it but no real reason to upgrade yet. I'm sure I will eventually.

Greatoneshere · August 5, 2020

52 minutes ago, BlueAngel said:

That thing is ancient by today's standards.

Indeed it is, and yet, I barely use all of its features as is. That's why I said I'm "still" on one. I'm too busy to use more of the features on my phone than I already do.

Greatoneshere · August 5, 2020

6 minutes ago, BlueAngel said:

I imagine you have severe screen burn in as well? every S8 I've seen recently has horrible burn in.

Not that I've noticed but I really do use my phone a lot less than the average smart phone user, I imagine. Is there an easy way to notice the burn in? I'll look for it.

Also, generally speaking, what are newer phones doing that's so essential that would make someone want to upgrade at this point? Asking cause I genuinely don't know.

Greatoneshere · August 5, 2020

1 hour ago, BlueAngel said:

You'll know if you have burn in, it's quite obvious lol. New phones: better screens, battery life and cameras.

Ah, okay, makes sense - appreciate all the info.

**Jason** · August 5, 2020

1 minute ago, Greatoneshere said:

Ah, okay, makes sense - appreciate all the info.

Samsung has been seriously toning down the screen curvature and seems to be moving away from it altogether (the base Note 20 will have a flat screen, for example). If you're still happy with your S8+ I'd give it another year and see if they finally fully abandon curved screens on the S21.

Greatoneshere · August 5, 2020

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

Samsung has been seriously toning down the screen curvature and seems to be moving away from it altogether (the base Note 20 will have a flat screen, for example). If you're still happy with your S8+ I'd give it another year and see if they finally fully abandon curved screens on the S21.

Ah, this helps too - honestly I didn't mind the curved screen, happy to go back to not curved as well.

Greatoneshere · August 6, 2020

26 minutes ago, BlueAngel said:

I hate the curved screens, luckily the S20 has a very small curve but almost flat makes usability much better and less accidental touches.

Definitely do have accidental touches I find annoying and it'll pull up the sidebar or Bixby (which I don't use).

Joe · August 6, 2020

My S8+ looks beautiful and works like a dream. Don't have a any real reason to upgrade other than my battery is getting a little shitty, but it's still significantly better than my S6 was brand new.

Greatoneshere · August 6, 2020

2 hours ago, Joe said:

My S8+ looks beautiful and works like a dream. Don't have a any real reason to upgrade other than my battery is getting a little shitty, but it's still significantly better than my S6 was brand new.

Yeah, I have had little to no issue with my S8+ since whenever the phone originally came out and I got one.

**GeneticBlueprint** · August 6, 2020

I really can't believe they have the gall to offer that Note 20 at $1000. It's worse than every other flagship in every sense. Yet more expensive smdh. It's worse than their previous base Note models too. But it continues a trend I suppose.

Note 9: 1440p, glass back, Micro SD card slot, headphone jack, $999

Note 10: 1080p, glass back, no micro sd card slot, no headphone jack, $949

Note 20: 1080p, plastic back, no micro sd card slot, no headphone jack, $999

Lol. The fuck outta here.

**Jason** · August 6, 2020

4 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

I really can't believe they have the gall to offer that Note 20 at $1000. It's worse than every other flagship in every sense. Yet more expensive smdh. It's worse than their previous base Note models too. But it continues a trend I suppose.

Note 9: 1440p, glass back, Micro SD card slot, headphone jack, $999

Note 10: 1080p, glass back, no micro sd card slot, no headphone jack, $949

Note 20: 1080p, plastic back, no micro sd card slot, no headphone jack, $999

Lol. The fuck outta here.

A plastic back is better tbh since it won't shatter, unlike glass. And there's an argument for a 1080p option from the angle of higher resolutions just killing battery life for marginal gain. But yeah, the base Note 10 seems to exist solely to make the $1300 model seem like a good deal in comparison.

**GeneticBlueprint** · August 6, 2020

28 minutes ago, Jason said:

A plastic back is better tbh since it won't shatter, unlike glass. And there's an argument for a 1080p option from the angle of higher resolutions just killing battery life for marginal gain. But yeah, the base Note 10 seems to exist solely to make the $1300 model seem like a good deal in comparison.

I agree that in practice there's nothing wrong with plastic or smaller resolution. Just don't sell it to me as a flagship at the most expensive price of any phone called a flagship that's even remotely in that spec range.

Dre801 · August 11, 2020

Sticking with my Note 9. I think I'm done with high end phones after this. If I were getting a new phone now, I'd just get a Pixel 4A and call it a day.

skillzdadirecta · August 11, 2020

I have an S10 that's about a year old... thinking about uograding to a S20 Ultra.

Joe · August 18, 2020

14 minutes ago, BlueAngel said:

I'd definitely do it, much improved in every aspect.

They better be paying you, bro.

Joe · August 18, 2020

2 minutes ago, BlueAngel said:

I've had the S10, personal experience lol.

What'd you think of the upgrade from 9 to 10?

Joe · August 18, 2020

Yeah, you might have a mild Samsung preference!

**Jason** · August 18, 2020

1 hour ago, Joe said:

Yeah, you might have a mild Samsung preference!

From the Microsoft Duo thread:

2 hours ago, BlueAngel said:

This thing won't sell many units, if you wanna go fold you have to go Samsung, much better hardware and software.

Consumer Technology Samsung officially announces the Note 20, Galaxy Z Fold 2, Galaxy Buds Live, Galaxy Watch 3...and three years of OS updates, backdated to include the S10 and Note 10 lines.

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