Rev
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I expected a different kind of thread.
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Does anyone in this thread even like Jordan Peterson? I've been openly ridiculing his nonsense ever since I first heard about him. The guy is a transparent fraud. -
Given my history with him, I doubt it, especially after his weirdly point-missing attempt at refuting everyone right after that. One can hope, though.
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This gave me a good belly laugh once I realized you were serious.
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Imagine loving science and not caring about avoiding fallacy.
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SFLU's arguments in this thread are literally dumber than Ohioguy's worst day ever. I'm not even exaggerating. And he's proud of it. It's very bizarre but I guess times change people.
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There isn't any point of arguing with people who reject logic and don't care if their positions are consistent. I've just been reading it in amazement.
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Well yeah, I can't refute an argument if I don't listen to all of it. That's not what's being advocated or what I'm arguing against here.
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I'll go ahead and treat them like adults and tell them when I think they're wrong. You can go ahead and patronize them though.
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Or how about you simply stop speaking for people in marginalized groups? Many want other people to tell them if they disagree with them, even if they're white. You know, because they aren't racist and they care about actually testing their beliefs and claims.
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Believe it or not, some people in marginalized groups are super offended by this idea that they should just be listened to. They want to be challenged when they're wrong. They don't want to just be listened to and agreed with. Shocking I know.
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It's a racist and sexist generalization against white males. But it's ok because they're white males. It doesn't hurt my feelings or anything; it's just not worth my time. There are plenty of non-white females and homosexuals who share my values for freedom of expression.
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Almost all arguments about freedom of expression quickly turn into people talking past each other while conflating the legal right or first amendment with the principal with the value which holds that expression and dissent are generally good even when offensive.
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Curb stomp a guest maybe?
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I never said I was leaving. I've just massively reduced my posting.
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I agree.
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Any hope of fairness or consistency was lost when the board was sold to him. It's always been known it would be that way. There are benefits to that but this is one of the downsides. People can always just not post here if they don't like it.
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Depends. There are different degrees and variations of solipsism. "My subjective experience is all that I know exists" is different from "nothing else exists other than my experience." The latter is far more speculative and internally incoherent.
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Forum arguments in a nutshell.
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I'm going to just assume you're trolling now, or at least close to pretending like you were trolling the whole time to save face. Thanks for the chat.
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If only your subjective experience exists, then I don't exist as a separate subjectivity. I'm just part of yours so if you're confused about my subjective experience, you're actually confused about your own.
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Now you don't think people can be confused either? Are you trolling me?
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You're conflating ontology with epistemology and confusing the shit out of yourself.
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Even "truth doesn't exist" is a claim that's either true or untrue. And if objective reality exists at all, then there is in principle a conceivable description that corresponds with that reality, which fits correspondent models of "truth."
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Another claim about the nature of objective (or external, in your words) reality. You make a lot of these and each one is incoherent with your unbelievably speculative claim that truth doesn't exist.
