elbobo Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 This is the smartest most original scifi shows to appear on television in a LONG time. I don't want to give anything away because this show goes places especially at the end of season 2 but this is some of boldest leaps I have experienced in scifi, we are talking end of the 3 Body Problem book series level leaps, you are not going to be bored watching this show. Finding a way to watch it may prove difficult. The first season was on AMC+ so all 6 people that subscribed to that service could watch it, then they "canceled" it even though the entire second season was done, complete and ready to go. Amazon thankfully bought it but for some insane reason it is only available in Australia and New Zealand and VPNs won't let you get around it so you will have to use other methods but trust me go find it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I was going to but I don’t like being told what to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 @elbobo - you're the second person in as many days to recommend this show! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted October 29, 2023 Author Share Posted October 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: @elbobo - you're the second person in as many days to recommend this show! 2nd season came out just a couple weeks ago so it's still fresh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Game Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 That show is absolutely fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 It's literally the next show I'll be watching! It's been on the list for awhile, but wanted to see if season 2 would ever get released first since it looked like WB Discovery (or is it AMC?) was gonna keep it in the vault forever ala Batgirl. But they released season 2 internationally recently, so we're all good. Looking forward to checking it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Do we expect Amazon to release it everywhere else anytime soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, TwinIon said: Do we expect Amazon to release it everywhere else anytime soon? not a clue, it seems odd they would only purchase the rights for such a small territory. There must be something weird going with the ownership or distribution rights of the show. I did some reading up last night on the show and found out why portions of it gave me just a Three Body Problem vibe, Ken Liu who wrote the short stories that Pantheon is adapted form was the english translator for three body problem books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Binged both seasons this past week and it was excellent! Really enjoyable all around - great visualizations for fights, etc. when online and solid character storytelling. A couple of unbelievable contrivances surround the kids but otherwise no issue. The show definitively ends so that was nice, no cliffhanger for a season 3 that's never coming. Need some clarification on some stuff that happened at the end of the second season though: @elbobo @Hurricane Game Spoiler So was what we've been watching from the beginning of the show a simulation? Or was what we saw the first run before Maddie uploaded herself, left Earth, and became a God who creates a Dyson Sphere running human simulations herself? I was confused on this point and the montage they provide when the episode is time jumping at the end don't make this clear - she clearly took a ship and left but what happened to Earth and all the characters we were watching? If that was one of her simulations that she's chosen to step into, then where's the original Earth with the original versions of the characters? There must have been one for SafeSurf to contact them 43 millions years from the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: Binged both seasons this past week and it was excellent! Really enjoyable all around - great visualizations for fights, etc. when online and solid character storytelling. A couple of unbelievable contrivances surround the kids but otherwise no issue. The show definitively ends so that was nice, no cliffhanger for a season 3 that's never coming. Need some clarification on some stuff that happened at the end of the second season though: @elbobo @Hurricane Game Hide contents So was what we've been watching from the beginning of the show a simulation? Or was what we saw the first run before Maddie uploaded herself, left Earth, and became a God who creates a Dyson Sphere running human simulations herself? I was confused on this point and the montage they provide when the episode is time jumping at the end don't make this clear - she clearly took a ship and left but what happened to Earth and all the characters we were watching? If that was one of her simulations that she's chosen to step into, then where's the original Earth with the original versions of the characters? There must have been one for SafeSurf to contact them 43 millions years from the future. I am not sure but I am leaning towards yes it was some layer of a simulation which seems like it would cheapen everything but the show really pounds home the idea over and over again that all life is life whether it biological real humans, UIs, CIs(not sure why they don't call them AIs), they are all as real as one another so it shouldn't matter to us an audience if what we saw was the real world or layer 4578 of a simulation it was real to the characters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 5 hours ago, elbobo said: Hide contents I am not sure but I am leaning towards yes it was some layer of a simulation which seems like it would cheapen everything but the show really pounds home the idea over and over again that all life is life whether it biological real humans, UIs, CIs(not sure why they don't call them AIs), they are all as real as one another so it shouldn't matter to us an audience if what we saw was the real world or layer 4578 of a simulation it was real to the characters Makes sense: Spoiler But still takes away from the stakes somewhat of the show by suggesting it's one of many simulations, even if it's among the chosen ten worlds by God Maddie. And while I agree they are all lives ala The Matrix, I'm much more interested in the continued digging to find the "prime" universe and what that Earth is up to than a Dyson Sphere of simulations to create one that ends well for all. Instead of choosing nostalgia they should have gone to the galactic center with SafeSurf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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