Sony Sony is no longer reporting PS4 shipments which means the final total for the console is ~117.2 million as of March 2022.

[BloodyHell]

21 minutes ago, CastletonSnob said:

I meant the XBone never really recovered. Yeah, Microsoft is doing better, but they weren't doing so well in the Xbone days. 

Oh absolutely, it was an unmitigated disaster from day 1.

[Remarkableriots]

21 minutes ago, Chairslinger said:

 

 

Hasn't the series S been pretty easy to get for a while now?

 

 

Looks like you can easily get one from Amazon.

[TwinIon]

24 minutes ago, Chairslinger said:

Hasn't the series S been pretty easy to get for a while now?

Yes, the S has been available, but it occupies a new and potentially different place in the market than most consoles. The fact that the Series X remains elusive means that Series S availability doesn't entirely fulfill demand for the Series X. For myself, if I wanted an X, I wouldn't buy an S. I suspect I'm not alone in that.

[crispy4000]

If Series S is completely sold out around the holidays this year, I think it’ll be clear that MS made the right move with it.

 

 

[Keyser_Soze]

6 hours ago, TwinIon said:

Yes, the S has been available, but it occupies a new and potentially different place in the market than most consoles. The fact that the Series X remains elusive means that Series S availability doesn't entirely fulfill demand for the Series X. For myself, if I wanted an X, I wouldn't buy an S. I suspect I'm not alone in that.

 

I think Series X  comes back into stock more often than PS5. I was able to get a SEX back in March pretty easily. In fact the consoles were stocked on Amazon for longer than a day (which was impressive at the time)

[TwinIon]

14 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said:

I think Series X  comes back into stock more often than PS5. I was able to get a SEX back in March pretty easily. In fact the consoles were stocked on Amazon for longer than a day (which was impressive at the time)

 

I haven't tried to get an Xbox, but I think you're right that it's been slightly easier to get than a PS5.

 

VGChartz (a questionable source, but better than nothing) thinks the PS5 has outsold the X|S by about 5 million units to date. That scans with my overall impression of the market (that the PS5 is ~25% more popular), but I still don't think we have a complete picture given neither console can satisfy demand. I think it's plausible that the PS5 could have sold double what the Xbox is selling, but I also think it's plausible that the Xbox could be a bit closer if supply were not an issue.

 

Overall my point is that with supply continuing to be so limited, we can't get a great sense of their relative demand. We have a ballpark, and I'd be surprised if the Xbox would have outsold the PS5, but the real gap in demand remains a question mark.

[crispy4000]

15 minutes ago, TwinIon said:

VGChartz (a questionable source, but better than nothing)

 

That's the BS mantra that's kept them afloat all these years.  We'd be better off with less numbers than VGChartz's 'data' getting spread around.

[crispy4000]

Closest comparison we have from a legitimate insider, back at the beginning of this year: