Cocksure successful youtuber "debates" streamer with smaller audience, has rough day

[GeneticBlueprint]

3 hours ago, heydude93 said:

 

Someone compiled screenshots before a lot of the threads on his subreddit were deleted. Saying they were coping would be putting it mildly.

Let's see 'em

[Reputator]

On 6/23/2021 at 8:03 PM, CayceG said:

I barely know who any of these people are. 

 

That's more than I know.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

Hasan Piker was not amused.

 

Hasan Piker on the problem with YouTube debate culture

WWW.THEVERGE.COM

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"Personally, I think all of this is just bullshit."

 

[SuperSpreader]

Who are all these people and do I care? I mean, the answer is no obviously. 

[heydude93]

On 6/30/2021 at 9:46 AM, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

Hasan Piker was not amused.

 

Hasan Piker on the problem with YouTube debate culture

WWW.THEVERGE.COM

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"Personally, I think all of this is just bullshit."

 

 

Somewhat necessary Wall-o-text response: it's not new information that every seasoned political streamer makes fun of debate bros (debating for debate sake/points) and recognizes the distinction between that and debating effectively to demonstrate the utility of viewpoints that increase fairness in society, etc.

 

Fyi Hasan's under a lot of scrutiny lately btw for insensitivity and letting misinformation and dumb takes in his political commentary slip by him often. Sometimes it seems like he cares more about getting rich and fucking pornstars than being a reliable source of information, but in his defense he's worked wonders at popularizing leftist politics.  This might be influencing his viewpoint in the above interview, but not sure, time will tell. But the team sports critique is on point.  It's a problem most streamers with goals of making serious political commentary are running into: the amount of viewers watching for reasons intended vs hatewatching, watching for the reality tv drama meymeys, looking for an echo chamber, to only see someone win/lose, etc.

 

Hence why I respect Destiny and Rele - Destiny's goal appears to be minimizing bias and any unjust impact from any source + maximizing personal freedom + being as comprehensive and fair as possible in his arguments, and seems more concerned than most w/ getting to the heart of what someone he disagrees with believes, seeing how well it holds up to scrutiny and making them reveal their authentic selves vs beating them at their own game.  As far as I know Rele's not the most sensitive or levity-inspiring guy - in some ways he might seem like another typa bro - but so far he's shown a bonkers amount of credibility in his arguments (very few misses, and any time he does he seems interested in course correcting asap) and he's the most untrollable content creator i've ever seen and will regularly take any chatters to task by initiating a "discord or ban" ultimatum, forcing them to mic up or touch grass. 

 

Seeing political commentators who you feel represent your views put their perspective in action every day via live broadcasts where they can interact with viewers might be the future of some types of programming we consume as podcasts, articles and tv shows can be helpful in learning how to deal w/ bad faith manipulation and grifting attempts directed at you on the day-to-day.  If nothing else it exists as a public service that helps make ethical/fair application of direct action (enacting a just response on anyone perpetuating shit ideas instead of just the most blatantly shitty people) increasingly viable and effective. ^_^