Carbs aren't the problem. It's the industrialized nature of food commodity that's the problem. Want some ham and cheese on rye for breakfast, perfectly fine. PB and Jelly on wonder bread, that's all refined sugars that hit the dopamine and do shit for satiety. Same with all these potato/corn chips. Cheap crops for easy commerce. Rather than a discussion on nutrition in a vacuum, there should be contextualization how the markets intervene in our food supply. Particularly when economic struggles force people to live off highly subsidized industrial pablum.