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I'm with you on all of that; except the term fully vaccinated; as that status changes (research has shown), just as it does for a person with natural immunity. That brings me to the issue of continued boosters; I have no interest in that, I'd rather take my chances.

I'm wired that way, a lot of that type of information is use to make decisions (professionally, personally). Yes, I feel the same about the material they have presented in 2020 and 2021 and that's where I get the it doesn't really make a difference personally; its based on their or the rest of the scientific communities data. If they shot drastically changed things for me, I would take it; you all seem to think I'm against it, I'm not, just for me at this time.

I'm only a danger to you if your shot doesn't work; which then means everyone is a danger to you as they can still pass it along. Really, I'm less likely to be a to danger to you as I know when I'm ill; so its less likely that you'd come in contact with me.

You are ignoring that by the numbers I'm in the same boat in either case; why take something that by the numbers isn't needed? It would be stupid to do something that doesn't need to be done. I also find it funny how gun ho you all are about the shot, as when it was being talked about being ready by the end of 2020, you all talked about how not enough time was taken and how the President is lying about its potential effectiveness.

Funny how you speak in an absolute, then your supporting evidence lacks the absolution. My statement is correct based on your own statement. Even Fauci has stated such.

An obese person is perfectly healthy? A person with diabetes is perfectly healthy?

Fortunately we live in a world where little of that can't be worked around (for some).

Got it, seemed to go away in my area, I was unscheduled. The control charts in the presentation speak to a lack of consistency in the process. Their concern about how to get it tested on a large scale. Past results from other companies that work on similar technology. Their concern about FDA approval. Its a few hundred pages, but a great read.

First, I'm not an anti-vaxxer; I, like my kids have all the well tested normal vaccines out there; heck I have some for yellow fever and other regional outliers. May you please provide a coherent argument for getting the shot? I haven't heard one in a long time as the narratives (can't catch, can't pass) have fallen apart. I'm in the airport at least 6 times a month, and you know what you hear all over the speakers, "if you have flu like symptoms, go home, quarantine, most recover on their own," that's really the only true statement that is out there; non political, no virtue signaling, just factual.

J&J was my initially plan, was on schedule to get it, then it was taken off the market. That was what really changed my mind to no, not at all. No interest in the Moderna or Pfizer after reading the SI Moderna provided the government in November 2019.

Filled with unvaccinated patients with comorbids. We should tell those people to stay out first, as they have the major issue.

Yet in this case you really can't speak to a greater good. There is little evidence that shows the shot will stop this pandemic; see counties that have higher shot rates. Also, if you were truly about collateral damage ending this pandemic, you would be about not getting the shot, letting all those with comorbids die, and the recoverable live on. Maybe you were for not shutting down the country and letting it all play out; I'd have to look back, or you can state your previous position.

I started to asked for peer reviewed material (as there is plenty at the NIH that speaks in the other direction, but lacks peer review), but that's fine. Still doesn't address my booster concern; that of which I have no interest. Also doesn't speak to how I would be helping the greater society.

Not saying I had it, but man it was everything that came out in the beginning. Wouldn't surprise me if I had, Japan was loaded with the world at the time because of the Rugby World Cup. Also, if you're just saying that I wasn't there, just check Tokyo Club Crawl #600 on Facebook, you'll find a couple pictures of me.

Have anything scientific that speaks to that extra layer of protection? Also, how does that benefit the greater society? I mean, I know that was the initial (unscientific) narrative; that has basically eroded to protect yourself; but there needs to be more than just words.

What would me getting it do for the greater society? I've been waiting on that answer for a long time. If a great one can be given, I'd be amendable.

How am I being selfish? Just following the science and math.

I could have actually passed all that before my last Covid bout.

The math doesn't make sense for me (age, lack of comorbids, life style) to get it. Shot, no shot; based on all the scientific data provided my designation doesn't change. Add in that it doesn't keep me from catching or passing it, and the unknowing booster cycle (I've never had a flu shot), there is little to no benefit of me taking it. Lastly, I've had Covid at least once (a month ago), and maybe twice (Oct 2019 coming back from Japan). Took me out for about three days the most recent time, even had to take some pain medication (generic Tylenol) for the first time since 2008 (half a vicadon, broken wrist). I can deal with that.

Standing with Kyrie. Will be interesting to see if my company gets to the point of shot mandates; I'm prepared to give them my religious exemption, as well as if that fails for them to let me go. I don't think it will happen though, we just made a huge acquisition and some of the main people (PhD chemists | engineers; management) asked to stay on said they would quit if the shot was mandated. That should offer me some protection.

No, it will fall on dumb ears who will listen and believe the blame game. In reality, the Dems don't need the Republican vote, they are avoiding the perception of the growing totalitarian state of which we are currently governed.

At work was my preferred place, scheduled meetings around my morning and afternoon "sessions." I was all about making chocolate zebras out of those bowls.

Seems no one is asking the question, "what if there was voter fraud?" Just jumping to, "we'll take actions." January 2021 way more interesting than January 2020. Buckle up and put on your crash helmets.

If it does, I'm buying.

The one eye solute in the picture tells me all I need to know.