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  1. I'm pretty sure 1%-5% is the acceptable defect rate, but I'm sure it depends on the market since I'd bet TVs have a higher rate than 5%, and some certain mechanical drives are definitely failure prone.  

     

    It would be nice to ballpark an actual figure, but I don't think we have any idea of the true failure rate since it's just that one repair shop reporting their numbers. How many shops are doing that many? What is the sweet spot, in terms of length of usage before failure, for the typical 4090? At some point the rate will go down as manufacturers put the revised connector on their cards.

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  2. 4 hours ago, Spork3245 said:


    Thanks for the tag? :p 

     

    It should be noted that the wiggle issue is plug-dependent (but everyone should check to see how much their adapter/plug moves). Some are more prone to wiggle than others. For example: cable mod’s original right-angle adapter could move a ridiculous amount while being latched due to the design of the latch on their adapter (it could basically do a full pivot up until the rest of the plug would be stopped on the sidewall of the port), meanwhile their EVGA PSU adapter (straight, not angled) can barely move once clicked in (I checked mine immediately once the issues of their right angle adapter came out).

     

    4 hours ago, Spork3245 said:


    It’s worth putting into perspective that in one month nVidia sold over 160k 4090s (November 2022). Let’s say the avg is 100k units sold per month (I’d assume it’s actually higher but there’s no concrete sales data I can find beyond the first month of sales), 100 defective units per month out of that is 0.1%.

    I’m not trying to discredit the issue, but to put into perspective the sensationalism of that article. :p 

     

    I knew you'd lurk anyway... plus I've lost track who's upgraded.  Probably missing @Ominous and a few others with a 4090?

     

    This does seem to be a problem bigger than it should be, as the shop should be able to compare how many 3090s have melted. Also some 4080s that have melted. Would definitely be prudent to get a full range of stats to get an idea about the rate of melted connectors for 400W+ cards new and old.

  3. @stepee @Mr.Vic20

     

    4090 owners, might want to inspect your card and make sure the connector is good. Even properly latched connections with the OG design are still melting, because the pin design\tolerances are absolute shit.

     

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    Owners of NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 GPUs are still prone to "12VHPWR" connector issues which include melting and burns, reports NorthridgeFix.

     

     

    Not only do you have to make sure the clip latches, but the connection should be squared up. A very light wiggle could make sure the metal contacts inside the plastic have a proper connection, because one other theory to the issue is a lax manufacturing tolerance leading to poor connections.

     

    The 12vhpwr connector is just so badly designed that it will soon be replaced with a new version.

     

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    Thermals on the new connector are significantly lower compared to its 12VHPWR predecessor, even in worst-case scenarios.

     

     

     

     

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  4. For all the nonsense that happened in the other episodes I actually liked this finale. The other episodes simply exist for content and entertainment and fakeouts with sprinkles of storytelling because this finale was the only one that actually matters and has consequence. 

     

    Also Tom Hiddleston is charasmatically goated. Finale couldn't have hit hard without him.

  5. 1 hour ago, Greatoneshere said:

    One thing bugs me though: why is Loki time slipping in the first place, and why only him? Additionally, why does Sylvie remember everything and have a tempad when no one else does? Other than these two things I felt the season has been pretty solid on the timey-wimey front.

     

    Shhhhhhhh, you're not supposed to think about such things!

     

    Personally my favorite episode was the last one because I found it to be comedy gold in how it killed, pruned, and spaghettified all of the built-up stories. Was I laughing like a mad man whose brain was broken? Sure, but at least I was laughing.

     

    This season has gone meta at the expense of tight writing. Sylvie can seemingly do anything she wants, so why does she choose a McD's life? Well obviously even a god can't escape the oppressive force of capitalistic exploitation which convinces the masses that life is dully working a 9-5.

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    On 10/23/2023 at 2:25 AM, Moa said:

    In classic Flanagan fashion, he manages to stick the landing. It still wasn't my favorite of his series, but I liked it well enough.

     

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    Among the many things I like about Flanagan's work, he understands that endings should be built up to. It's far worse to have a twist that betrays the story than to have a predicable but good ending.

     

    Pym deserved better.

     

     

    This was such a faithful interpretation. Brick laying is analogous to Poe's method of writing; you don't build a wall just to break it down in the end.

  7. 2 hours ago, Reputator said:

     

    If that actually happens that would be insanely stupid. As it is, it seems like they're building up to some Deus Ex Machina ending where someone or something swoops in and reverses it all, which is also stupid. So admittedly there aren't a lot of story solutions that won't be off-putting, and the chances are slim they come up with something satisfying that doesn't throw away everything they've built toward but also isn't a pointless cop-out.

     

    If everyone turns out to not have been spaghettified... well I don't know what our characters are going to do. I only know that everything they've been trying to do so far is thrown out the window. Doctor Strange appearance? Wanda? 

  8. 2 hours ago, Reputator said:

    Hmmm, wow. No, they didn't wipe out all the characters, that ending was obviously a misdirect. But I sure as hell don't where it's going with just two more episodes.

     

    Even if these characters return, seems like everything they have been doing doesn't matter. Feels like a blank slate going forward and they're going to come up with something new to do.

  9. So they finally give us a proper explanation for the characters' plans and motivations in episode 4 only to reset everything, rofl. Well that certainly explains why the campiness was off the charts. Nothing made sense because it didn't matter, so I have to imagine the intention was to not take this season (so far) so serious.

     

    I'm assuming that now every timeline is possible and this is the MCU's excuse to reboot or branch (haha) out going forward.

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  10. On 10/23/2023 at 11:19 AM, Kal-El814 said:

     

    Even in this example, Dumbledore is still almost universally beloved and Holdo is reviled. I don't think it's literally as simple as Dumbledore is a dude and therefore good and Holdo is a woman and therefore bad. But at the same time I don't think the fact that Holdo is a woman is unrelated to the amount of heat she took from the fandom. It's just a thing that men's flaws give them depth and allow them to be compelling and women are defined solely by their flaws. Rey in TFA took more than her share of shit for being conveniently dope with the Force and while we'll never know for sure, it's difficult to imagine the same thing would have happened if Rey was a guy. Or jumping back to Potter... Snape is a wizard racist who treats Harry like absolute dogshit across thousands of pages because he had one sided, incel-vibe heavy love for Lilly... and he's praised for his depth and characterization. I'm hard pressed to think of ANY female character in pop culture that gets to be that flawed while also being beloved and perceived as ultimately noble? 

     

    We see this over and over and over and over. In Endgame the entire plot hinges on a time heist, predestination, Nebula never updating her brain's Wi-Fi password, etc. Yet people thought the ladies teaming up to help Spidey was "contrived." The entire affair was a $300M exercise in fanservice and people lost their suspension of disbelief when a bunch of women happened to be standing next to one another.

     

    It's likely not a coincidence that the critics and tastemakers judging and making this content have been, generally, straight white guys.

     

    To be clear I don't mean to direct this all at you specifically @cusideabelincoln :) 

     

    To @Bacon's point, I don't necessarily think there's anything wrong with liking entertainment that goes down stereotypical gender roles, or is heteronormative, or whatever (though I acknowledge that this is a privileged POV). We're not really at any kind of risk for that sort of content going away. The issue is when that's perceived as the default. It's the implicit bias that the ends justify the means and dudes who take action, usually straight white dudes, are ultimately in the right for making "the hard decision." IIRC during the Bush era when people were defending "enhanced interrogation techniques", Antonin Scalia brought up Jack Bauer situations as like... maybe we need to just torture people sometimes because there might be a ticking timebomb somewhere. We see this shit with The Boys where people either miss that Homelander is ACTUALLY a bad person and not just "misunderstood" or want him to have some kind of redemption arc where he sheds a single tear as he dies pushing a nuke into the sun or some shit.

     

    It's also why I think that... (spoilers for stuff that happens late into the Invincible comic and that has NOT happened on the show yet)

     

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    I'm a person whose first wish if I got a genie would be to destroy all guns in the hands of private citizens immediately and forever, but I like it when John Wick shoots a lot of people in the face. :p So I'm not necessarily saying, "don't make this content ever," but I think it would be better and more interesting if there was more content exploring other perspectives and the people that got to be flawed weren't generally straight white dudes.

     

    WTH, I never got a notification for this. Anyway, I mostly agree with you how the general populous expresses their opinions. A certain, significant portion of the population have this implicit bias against women. Using the Dumbledore example was just my personal opinion of him being an idiot. Sidenote: Like, every Harry Potter story has major or minor contrivances to make each installment exciting and it's definitely best to not overthink them, because most of the plots of each movie/book revolves around not telling Harry something very important that could have been told to him way sooner. Back to TLJ: While Holdo as a character is likely an intentional choice to highlight misogyny, I'm still not convinced that every facet of the movie was made with this intention as Greatoneshere's articles pointed out. There are several themes Johnson explores and goals he had with particularly plot points and characters and it doesn't revolve around gender. One of the articles makes the argument that a central theme is about women showing men how to cope with their emotions. I dislike this take, because knowing real people in real life my experience is that women are as equally emotionally unstable as men. I guess if this how someone chooses to see what the movie represents... then fair, because there is some good to come from this messaging. But TLJ was purposefully ambiguous on some things - notably how it wanted to go about representing the Jedi Order and its future - so I think one its goals was to incite discussion and highlight different points of view.

     

    On 10/23/2023 at 11:26 AM, Greatoneshere said:

     

    You mentioned a number of additional examples that I was thinking of that also bear this all out. The minute a female character in a big, fan-heavy series like the MCU and Star Wars does anything it is scrutinized far differently than a male character. I mean, the vitriol aimed at Brie Larson for not making Captain Marvel a character that immediately appeals to men is something that would never happen with a white male character. All your points are salient - the need to diversify is so important in terms of themes and messaging in film and art.

     

    I mostly don't see, and if I do then avoid, the Star Wars women hating and women hating content in general, but holy shit is it really hard to avoid headlines or content about hating Bri Larson. Seems like the most forced narrative out there. 

     

    On 10/23/2023 at 2:03 PM, GeneticBlueprint said:

     

    It was. I enjoyed reading through the convo.

     

    For the record I'm on the "TLJ is great" train for many of the reasons mentioned throughout the thread. But I think what really hits home for me in that movie is actually the thing its detractors most despise: Luke's portrayal. Like, I get it, seeing Luke run in with a laser sword and taking down the First Order would have been cool. That's actually exactly what I was wanting and hoping for when I was anticipating the movie. But I don't think it would have been good. When I was a kid I loved Luke and wanted to be Luke. What young boy didn't? But realistically I couldn't relate to Luke. Sure I wanted to go off on some adventure and be the good guy and hero and all that. But my dad wasn't space Hitler, you know? Now that I'm older, I can relate a lot to Luke in TLJ: I've had a crisis of faith. I've let people down who expected better of me due to my imperfections. I've been at my wits' end trying to discipline and guide an unruly child. I've failed at various and sundry things I've attempted and felt reclusive. I guess to relate that back to what was discussed earlier, I feel like a lot of adult males didn't appreciate that mirror being held up in front of them. Or haven't had those types of experiences and trials in their lives. I almost wish I could say the same but the movie makes a really great point about those experiences being teachers. New and revelatory? No. But beautifully told.

     

    And we still get a really badass Luke moment anyways.

     

    I liked Luke's arc... until he died. Literally no reason for him to die in that story and his death doesn't accomplish anything for the other characters. It's also especially egregious to have hamstrung the trilogy's story knowing Carrie had died and they had plenty of time to rework that scene before release.

     

    On 10/23/2023 at 2:39 PM, Greatoneshere said:

    I do 100% agree that it's time to just cast new actors for the OT roles like Luke rather than deep fake shit. It's time, as weird as that will be and it will take getting used to. I mean, Sebastian Stan is right there still, and already works for Disney via the MCU. 

     

    The CGI deepfake shit is just never going to let the characters express any nuanced emotion; the technology is not there. Luke in the Mandoverse may as well be a robot since he's nothing like young or old real Mark Hamil.

  11. 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

    The suspect is an Army firearms instructor stationed out of Saco, ME.

     

    According to law enforcement, the suspect recently reported mental health issues including hearing voices and threats to shoot up the National Guard base in Saco. He was also reported to have been committed to a mental health facility for 2 weeks in the summer of 2023.
     

     

    The right has their scapegoat now. They will proceed to talk about solving mental health, not actually do anything about it, and let freedom riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing.

  12. I just found a Sonic-inspired level in the Magma world, awesome

     

    5 hours ago, Spork3245 said:

     

    I don't normally kink shame, but... :raisedbrow:

     

    I like big trunks and I cannot lie

    Those Mario Bros can't deny

    When the Princess walks in as an itty bitty Peach

    And jumps on that powerup with her feet

     

    You get sprung

    The mushroom makes you tough

    'Cause you notice that trunk was stuffed

    With water from the pipes emerging

    Those Daisies aren't the only thing that's growing

     

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  13. 6 hours ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said:

    I know quite a few Trump-fans from both traditionally Democratic and traditionally Republican backgrounds, and over the years the diagnosis of their support’s unshakability I’ve formed is that it boils down to a kind of political nihilism.  They believe the whole system of politics is rigged against them and rotten to the core, and Trump’s norm-breaking behavior and his tendency to insult and degrade other politicians on both sides of the aisle endears him to them.  They instinctually believe, owing to this nihilism, that the attacks and allegations against Trump are the concoctions of the corrupt elites who control levers of traditional political power.  That’s why his crimes and antics only strengthen their support.

     

    That’s one half of it.  The other half is much less complex—namely, that Trump’s vulgar outbursts give them the kind of basic, juvenile thrill that people get from the act of trolling.  You know the kind of sophomoric hahas people get from leaving an over-the-top incendiary comment in the comments section of a YouTube video that gets 10,000x more replies than the more thoughtful, nuanced takes?  Yeah, Trump basically continually supplies them with that kind of dopamine hit, and it’s very addictive, particularly to people consumed by political cynicism.

     

    There is a touch of the whole ‘woke backlash’ sentiment, but it’s an ancillary aspect of their support, not an essential one.  That’s why they don’t abandon Trump for pols like DeSantis.   
     

    One more confirmation that we’re in late empire stage.  (“Augustus who?  Nevermind, I don’t care, Rome is a shitshow these days anyways; just put a clown on the throne.  At least that would be funny.”)

     

    Nihilism born out of ignorance; ignorance perpetuated by the very corrupt, powerful entities that are actually rigging the system.

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  14. I just watched the first episode and for the first time I actually got queasy from the... realistic amount of blood being shown on screen. I didn't feel like this during the orgy massacre, despite being volumes more gore, because it was just so absurd. I'm not sure I can even continue to watch the series if it stays like this. I'm also unnerved by the fact our protagonist has to cut herself to make use of her powers... that doesn't seem so good for my mental health. Can I stop now? Does it get worse, or does it lean in to other types of weird shit?

  15. 11 hours ago, Greatoneshere said:

     

    I think I better understand what you are saying (and thanks for taking the time to read the links!). But George Lucas definitely intended political messaging in his prequels I think. Additionally, had Holdo been a man, that's Rian Johnson's argument - that Poe would behave and react differently had it been a man, and if he hadn't reacted differently, the audience would treat it differently. You say you think audiences would react the same, but I don't - male obstacles to another man's objective (as you said, unexplained hostility) is never met with the hostility women who are obstacles are, from Breaking Bad's Anna Gunn (Walt's wife) to Laura Dern's Holdo. You may not agree that would be the case but that's what Johnson is trying to say at least. And given the incredible amount of vitriol that was aimed at Holdo with Poe vs. Yoda and Obi-Wan from witholding key information from Luke says a lot, don't you? I don't see fans hating what Yoda and Obi-Wan did vs. Holdo.

     

    I definitely recommend a rewatch - if you do let us know what you think. Also I recommend that Mad Max article I linked to on page one if you haven't already as that helps bear this out as well.

     

     

    Agreed.

     

    Ok, I see that point. No doubt people other than myself wetn full on misogynistic with hate against Holdo while I personally thought Poe was acting like a dumbass the entire time... which you are arguing is on purpose to specifically point out toxic masculinity. Fair enough, there's probably more reason to believe this take over any other.

     

    12 hours ago, SaysWho? said:

     

    Quality aside, I thought that was just about what the PT was about. In fact, the recent seven years have convinced me that some deformed fuck calling for the end of democracy really would be met with applause.

     

    Better yet, Palpatine represents how some crazy old cook could just make up any old lie, without providing any proof, and the masses eat it up. Here I thought the movies were just taking shorcuts with storytelling, while I'm sure Palpy had his own... intergalactic "Fox" News Network. Man, if George had just leaned in on the messaging about propaganda those movies would have hit harder.

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  16. 3 hours ago, Greatoneshere said:

     

    I don't disagree with anything you're saying - Rian Johnson can certainly be criticized for his subversions not being weaved into the plot well enough but those subversions are definitely there and definitely part of the point but to me that strikes me as a weak criticism because, for example. Barbie's gender politics were obvious and front and center and no one seemed to mind and Barbie's observations are more obvious than TLJ's so calling TLJ's "surface level" to me is a good thing - the film is for all ages and people still didn't get his "surface level" messaging so how surface level can it be if the average man doesn't even get it? And why would it be odd to have no portrayals of positive masculinity in the film? Does it need to have it? I don't think so - not every film needs a counter balance, other films can go do that. As for quotes/articles, as I said, there are so many on TLJ's toxic masculinity messaging that it's clear it was part of Rian Johnson's intention to put all of that stuff into the film (elegantly or not is up to each person). Either way I'd definitely agree that Johnson gets ahead of himself, wanting to get his messaging in even when it can hurt the plot, like how much time passes in each plotline feels very different and how the chase makes no sense. Here's a couple more articles on it since, as you said, the first article does ignore some details to make its points, it's not the final word on this by any means. It's pretty clear that a lot of men on a subconscious level simply responded to the way TLJ is filmed in an aggressively negative manner since it's made with VERY feminist sensibilities. That doesn't mean TLJ is above criticism but a lot of people who criticize TLJ are doing it from that place of violently rejecting its filmmaking rather than from an objective perspective. If you're interested:

     

    WWW.DENOFGEEK.COM

    Time to talk about the competent women and the emotionally-challenged men of Star Wars: The Last Jedi.

     

    BITTERGERTRUDE.COM

    NOTE: This post is full of spoilers. "This is not going to go the way you think." -- Luke Skywalker Star Wars has always had its finger on the pulse of the cultural fear of the moment. In the original trilogy in the 1970s and early 80s, it was The Man-- an evil establishment that…

     

    WWW.YAHOO.COM

    Of all the things we expected from 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi', an enlightening examination of the harm caused by toxic masculinity was not one of them.

     

     

    Ok I've read them and they make the case pretty strongly. I knew there was an uptick for female equality and representation in the mid 2010's, but I didn't realize it came with a strong anti-patriarchy movement too. Probably not coincidentally, that must be the female perspective because all of those articles are written by women. While those themes do exist in the movie, I'm still not convinced they exist to the extreme level of detail that those authors see them as. Even the one article who summarized the OT being about "fighting the man" while the PT was about "turning a blind eye to Corpo-Govt takeover", you can make an arbitrary argument for any of the movies. I'm reminded of an assignment I had to do for a literature class my freshman year of college. The professor wanted us to write an essay about what the author meant by some assigned story. As usual I procrastinated to the night before, but I just went through the story and picked the examples that fit the narrative I was using. The professor gave me an A and wrote he hadn't heard that one before, and it wasn't because I was necessarily right. I just made some shit up, and really the only person who knows what the author meant was the author themselves.

     

    Also what I meant by "surface-level" was closer to... happenstance, coincidence. Maybe it is my male perspective, but for example if we take the Poe vs Holdo dynamic I think people would have hated it the same even if Holdo was a man. One popular circumstance that comes to mind happens in one of the Harry Potter movies. I was equally annoyed with Dumbledore when he chose to keep Harry in the dark and ignore him the entire time - I think that was in Goblet of Fire - and it was all for literally no good reason and done only to complicate the plot. Unspecified hostility and forced dramatic irony is annoying to an audience., so it's not necessary gender has anything to do with it. While those articles do a make a strong argument it was a deliberate choice to present a message, I don't agree with every one of their points of comparison. It would be much for me to go through all of them, but I could argue that gender for the newly-introduced characters in TLJ was just... balance, heuristics. They wanted to include (represent) more females in TLJ since they already established more male leads in TFA, Rose exists as a mechanism to detach Finn from Rey (because that 'ship was never going to happen *coughChina*), and RJ never bothered to make a commentary about Phasma since she is there to be a "cool-looking bad-person, but we already have too many bad-guys in SW so we need a bad-girl".

     

    I'll have to rewatch the movie to see if the anti-patriarchy runs as deep as the articles are saying, because I have surely forgotten or missed some nuances of the movie.

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  17. 21 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:


    Finn is only underdeveloped because of TROS. He gets two films worth of an arc and could have had a well formed conclusion had Duel of the Fates Ben the ending.

     

    By the end of TFA, he’s fully detached from The First Order and goes to rescue Rey. He admits at the end he only went to Starkiller Base for Rey.

     

    By the end of TLJ, he goes from just caring about Rey to calling himself a rebel, fully committing to the cause.

     

    DotF would have further explored his past connections to the First Order. Wish it did.

     

    Yet again TFA is the poison of the well (ST). A lot of these issues people have started with the decisions made in TFA.

     

    I really didn't care for the no time gap between TFA and TLJ, and I think it added unnecessary constraints to the story, but considering TFA decided to "go bigger and badder" with its story maybe RJ felt that was the best way to tell his story.

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  18. 4 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

     

    I mean, I agree with you - why did Rian Johnson feel that this was the time and place, via Star Wars, to confront male action hero tropes and that's probably because it's interesting when making an action blockbuster. If not then then when kind of mentality. Does the plot suffer sometimes to make his points? Yes, absolutely. Was Finn largely ignored? Yep. Though at least TLJ confronts his cowardice and his misinterpretation of sacrifice as bravery. It's really TROS that fails Finn ultimately.

     

    Yeah, I agree, the film didn't need to go into toxic masculinity any more than it needed a positive representation of it. I try to judge TLJ on what it is rather than what it isn't. 

     

    Lately I look at these blockbuster movies, especially Disney ones, from the lens of a megacorporation trying to squeeze money from as many target audiences as it possibly can. The reason we have 10-30 year old remakes now is because us past kids have grown and have money to spend. So even though TLJ has a necessary message it wants to tell, I personally think they're just doing it for greedy reasons. I mean you can see the checkboxes of things the corporation wanted the ST to have to make sure it makes money. So the story and plot take a sacrifice in order to cram those checkboxes in.

     

    I'm definitely getting more jaded as I get older.

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  19. 53 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

     

    I don't disagree with anything you're saying - Rian Johnson can certainly be criticized for his subversions not being weaved into the plot well enough but those subversions are definitely there and definitely part of the point but to me that strikes me as a weak criticism because, for example. Barbie's gender politics were obvious and front and center and no one seemed to mind and Barbie's observations are more obvious than TLJ's so calling TLJ's "surface level" to me is a good thing - the film is for all ages and people still didn't get his "surface level" messaging so how surface level can it be if the average man doesn't even get it? And why would it be odd to have no portrayals of positive masculinity in the film? Does it need to have it? I don't think so - not every film needs a counter balance, other films can go do that. As for quotes/articles, as I said, there are so many on TLJ's toxic masculinity messaging that it's clear it was part of Rian Johnson's intention to put all of that stuff into the film (elegantly or not is up to each person). Either way I'd definitely agree that Johnson gets ahead of himself, wanting to get his messaging in even when it can hurt the plot, like how much time passes in each plotline feels very different and how the chase makes no sense. Here's a couple more articles on it since, as you said, the first article does ignore some details to make its points, it's not the final word on this by any means. It's pretty clear that a lot of men on a subconscious level simply responded to the way TLJ is filmed in an aggressively negative manner since it's made with VERY feminist sensibilities. That doesn't mean TLJ is above criticism but a lot of people who criticize TLJ are doing it from that place of violently rejecting its filmmaking rather than from an objective perspective. If you're interested:

     

    WWW.DENOFGEEK.COM

    Time to talk about the competent women and the emotionally-challenged men of Star Wars: The Last Jedi.

     

    BITTERGERTRUDE.COM

    NOTE: This post is full of spoilers. "This is not going to go the way you think." -- Luke Skywalker Star Wars has always had its finger on the pulse of the cultural fear of the moment. In the original trilogy in the 1970s and early 80s, it was The Man-- an evil establishment that…

     

    WWW.YAHOO.COM

    Of all the things we expected from 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi', an enlightening examination of the harm caused by toxic masculinity was not one of them.

     

     

    I'll read those later, but I will say it's a weird turn for TLJ to make to have everything revolve around toxic masculinity. And it doesn't just detriment the plot if Johnson's goal was to inject as many male-critique themes as possible. I'd argue Finn's character goes underdeveloped throughout the entire trilogy; the "brainwashed, kidnapped child soldier" is a more critical part of his core development than masculinity and it goes completely ignored in TLJ and TROS.

     

     

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    And why would it be odd to have no portrayals of positive masculinity in the film? Does it need to have it? I don't think so - not every film needs a counter balance, other films can go do that.

     

    I mean, why does the movie need to go deep into toxic masculinity? Certainly didn't need to do either as it was certainly not a focus of past SW films. I always took any character flaws in previous films to be those of that particular character, not a whole subset of people.

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  20. 2 hours ago, Greatoneshere said:

     

    It means Rian Johnson put the aforementioned scenes you mentioned that you said you don't like to specifically show that the typical male hero action tropes in cinema are stupid and shouldn't be what we show and teach viewers. Instead of being a bull-headed hero trying to do everything on his own without all the information (Oscar Isaac) he needs instead to learn to trust his female superiors, even when kept in the dark. He needs to learn to be okay with that - which is a much more sensible approach than the typical bull in a china shop shit most male action heroes pull in these kinds of situations. Similarly, Finn sacrificing himself in that moment and Rose stopping him is another example of dispelling the typical action movie cliche that it always requires a sacrifice by a good guy to "win" and Rose stopping him is essentially saying: "we can win without ridiculous sacrificial heroics, let's try alternate methods rather than mythologizing heroic suicide in movies".

     

    It's the same reason Rian Johnson doesn't even have Luke fight Kylo Ren at the end of the film because resorting to violence is the last refuge of the incompetent and Rian Johnson isn't going to glorify that notion. Rian Johnson is using Luke faking the fight with Kylo to mock the idea that there "needs" to be a final battle. Instead Kylo Ren comes off like a typical angsty man whereas Luke uses strategy and non-violence to beat this typical male at his own lame "we need to have a real fight" game. The entirety of TLJ is filmed with this mentality in mind, made to dispel all these stupid male action hero cliches for a new approach, many most blockbuster films don't do. And unsurprisingly, it pissed off a lot of men because they want those tropes, they like them and Rian Johnson is saying women think those tropes are stupid and instead want to problem solve on a higher level without needing action hero men running around sacrificing themselves or contravening orders because they hate not being in the loop. So no, I'm not projecting. You can still dislike the film but from your post it just sounds like the scenes went over your head since you take the scenes at face value when more is going on. People really need to check their film biases at the door when watching this film. There is article after article about this:

     

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    The Last Jedi is a polarizing film, but looking deeper into Rian Johnson's vision you will find some potent themes, including the failures of masculinity.

     

     

    Are there any quotes/articles that this was Johnson's intention? I think most of these subversions are simply in sake of a twist - a surprise for the audience - with some surface-level criticism of masculinity thrown in. Because it's quite odd for Rian to make this a central theme with all the male characters being a negative example of masculine tropes without any positive examples of masculinity. Positive re-enforcement is more rewarding to the audience.  Also in making this point, the article is definitely ignoring some details, like even though Luke fakes the "testosterone-driven" fight he still heroically sacrifices himself because.... he dies. And corresponding the whole Jedi Order to unhealthy masculinity is some projection - also kind of odd that Rey really wants to save it. Perhaps the movie is trying to make those arguments, but it makes other ones too and isn't exactly clear-cut. My initial thoughts on opening night was the movie was trying to have its cake and eat it too with its messaging about the Jedi Order, and it's a bit messy.

     

    I walked out of TLJ loving it because it shat on all the dumb re-hashes JJ introduced in TFA, with the prime example being Snoke. However upon re-watching it much later, with the emotions dialed down, I think the movie does too much to try to be clever and "meta" in sacrifice of the logistics of the plot. Namely... the entire premise of the chase makes no sense. And the movie still falls into the SW trope of "rhyming" with the OT. Much like TFA took an outline of ANH and put a twist on it, so the TLJ does the same with ESB as a blueprint. Extended chase sequence? Check. Bunker assault on a white planet? Check. Protagonist seeking wisdom of a Jedi Master? Check. Antagonist making a "huge" reveal to the protagonist? Check. Somber ending, good guys take a huge hit, barely escaping? Check. But it's still the best movie out of the sequels because at least it forces you think and has some great shots, while you literally need to shut your brain off for the JJ flicks.

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