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I guess it was just Ottawa that extended it that long. It looks like most other municipalities and regions only extend two weeks at a time. I haven't heard much talk about opening things up any time soon, but like I said I could just be out of the loop. I'll say this, it's going to be a fucking disaster if we open things up too early and too rapidly. And this should all be obvious just looking at China's example of starting to open up, and then pulling back when the numbers started to rise. But, oh yeah, "cHiNa iS lYiNg." So what's happening over there bears no consideration, and instead we should do the exact opposite of them. Open things up. And when the infections inevitably start to rise, we'll wait. Wait until it becomes undeniably obvious that the lock downs need to be reinstated. And wait longer. Because that's what we fucking do. And wait longer still, before we finally do reinstate the lockdown. And when that happens, and the numbers continue to be low in China because they're not fucking stupid, we should once again repeat to each other how they are certainly lying. Because if we can't handle this, surely the god damn Chinese can't either. I mean who could possibly know that an extremely contagious illness could continue to be contagious? If only those god damn Chinese didn't lie to us about that! Edit: I tried finding any articles about opening things up but most of what I found was from March 23ish, when Trump said he wanted things open by Easter and it was obvious that was a bad idea. All I found was this article which, if anything, seems to suggest this will likely be a prolonged shutdown: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/business/economy/coronavirus-economy.html One of the points they raise in the article is even if you do open businesses up, the economy is not likely to recover until people feel comfortable and safe to go out and have fun. I definitely agree with this. I was just saying earlier to a friend that even if there was some miracle and we opened things up before June, and even though I really need a haircut already, I'm not going anywhere near a barber until at least middle of June, because it would be a fucking disaster for me if I got sick before then. After that it wouldn't be ideal but assuming I didn't die it'd be manageable for me to take a couple weeks off.
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I have a friend in Japan -- she's not in Tokyo though but some city more inland (she got really scared of the ocean after Fukushima) and she's really pushing back against me anytime I suggest the numbers may be under-reporting things. Her points that she raises is that Japan is a more socially distant culture, wrt to bowing rather than shaking hands or hugging, people live somewhat more isolated lives in Japan, many Japanese people wore masks in public even before COVID and as soon as news came out about COVID everyone was wearing masks, and Japan did take steps like shutting down schools earlier. And I'm like yeah, ok that all sounds good but man those subways.
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As @CitizenVectron said it takes closer to a year. In my experience it’s a much bigger issue on carbureted engines (the fuel in the carburetor likes to gum up). There‘a a product in Canada (I assume it exists in the USA as well) called sea foam that is good for keeping fuel from going bad but I wouldn’t worry about it unless you’re planning on parking your car for months (or if your car is 30+ years old and isn’t fuel injected). I’ve had a bunch of carbureted equipment get gummed up with old fuel when I forgot to use sea foam but I’ve never had a fuel injected engine have the fuel go bad (although I’m sure it can happen given enough time).
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16 times higher? People still die of other causes even during a pandemic. And in a city of 10 million people you'd expect roughly 20,000 people to die in the two months under normal circumstances. And that's just if we're talking about the urban area (if we include the metro area, the expected mortality rises to roughly 40,000, but I'm not sure if there'd be more funeral homes servicing the metro area than what they refer to). Sure the number of deaths from corona are almost certainly higher than what China has said, but I don't think they're necessarily lying. When this first started, China was limited on the tests they could produce and conduct just like everyone else was (and most still are). Italy isn't counting people that die at home but I don't see anyone saying Italy is lying, for example. EDIT: Oh absolutsurgen already covered this.
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Look at the labels on the y axis. It’s a cumulative numbers log chart. China had close to 100 new cases yesterday, but it’s going to be hard to see that on a log chart where the sum of cases is nearly 100,000. Compare that to South Korea that is reporting a slightly higher amount of new cases a day (140 yesterday I think) but it’s much more noticeable because their sum total is <10,000.