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I didn't say it was his fault Trump became a candidate or anything like that. I'm saying he didn't help his own party enough throughout his years as President which helped Trump and the Republicans, so no, his mere existence isn't the "only role" a major President of 8 years has leading up to the immediate election following his tenure. That's ridiculous of any president. You don't think any president has an effect on the election proceedings of his successor? C'mon now.
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The most unpopular candidate the Democratic party could have reasonably selected to go up against Donald Trump in 2016 given the context at the time. Obviously, I don't (and I don't think anyone else) literally means she was the most unpopular/worst candidate in history. The entire Republican primary candidates from 2016 shows that's simply not true, obviously.
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In no way am I absolving the American electorate by saying that Obama played a role in Trump's ascendancy and presidency due to his negligence and lack of resolve. That's flatly true. I didn't say he played the biggest part or even the second biggest part. But he played a significant enough role. Obviously, at least the 40% base/alt-right American electorate that keeps approving of Donald Trump's presidency in polling are a bunch of dumb ass fucking morons who want to burn us all down, including apparently immolating themselves while cutting off their nose to spite their own stupid faces, in case anyone needed me to be clear about my opinion on the subject.
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I can blame a number of factors at the same time, and that includes Obama and the American electorate, which is why I emphasize "in part" constantly. Obama did a lot - especially given the Herculean task the Bush administration left him at the time. But he still did a lot of things wrong, especially at the end, and I do hold him responsible for that part in this absolute clusterfuck of a situation we have now. Obviously, I blame Trump himself first and foremost.
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His inability to do as much as he should have depressed democratic voter turnout amongst progressives. Sure, Hillary Clinton was the worst candidate in history, but who set the stage for her? I think we can't just ignore the stage Obama set either. He could have been stronger and more progressive, like he had originally promised in 2008. He was completely ineffective in neutralizing Donald Trump while he was President and knew about election tampering. He is responsible, in part.
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No, actually, there's proof to show that Trump was in direct response to Obama and I'd argue Obama's handling of the 2016 presidential election was grossly negligent regardless of McTurtle trying to block him. His pushing for Hillary Clinton, his inability to keep his party honest, being bought by CitiBank and other Wall Street corporations. I like Obama a good bit actually, but I absolutely think he teed up the country (in part) to vote Trump in 2016, not intentionally, but negligently. Had he pushed a more Bernie Sanders-type progressive agenda in his 8 years, I guarantee that Trump would not have won in 2016.
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If he cared so much maybe he shouldn't have been a corporatist centrist Democrat who negotiated like a moderate Republican when he was the President of the United States of America for eight fuckin' years. Also, Obama is, in part, responsible for Trump, and it's because he wasn't nearly progressive enough.